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[make_batik_great_again]

You have to register your postnup where your marriage has been registered. If the marriage was muslim, in KUA. If the marriage was non-muslim or it was abroad, it should be registered in Catatan Sipil. Courts do not register contracts anymore and stopped decades ago, and they would refuse to do so if you ask them to do a contract registration.

Ok, then it is still as I thought and as I was told by our notary. Married abroad, so only registration at cat. sipil needed.

 

[Mamat]

Courts do not register contracts anymore and stopped decades ago, and they would refuse to do so if you ask them to do a contract registration.

That is correct. Actually, depending of the area, city you are. Some Court won't accept any, some will. Some Agencies that help foreigners into that matter do it sometimes. It is not mandatory, but was suggested. If you don't really need it, better avoid it i'd say. Don't tell my wife I said that hehehe

 

[scouser59]

As usual here confusion re process, our notaris said the only thing that was needed was to register at the court in denpasar which he did ,this would then be transmitted to the relevant offices ie kua and cat sip .

 

[centurion]

As usual here confusion re process, our notaris said the only thing that was needed was to register at the court in denpasar which he did ,this would then be transmitted to the relevant offices ie kua and cat sip .

Highly unlikely. There is no confusion as the regulations are very clear.

The notary should give you a proof of the registration of the postnup. It is either a note on the back of your marriage certificate from catatan sipil or on the back of the KUA buku nikah, or sometimes it is a separate paper. The procedure is usually 2 weeks in normal conditions.

 

[Helpful Herbert]

The process is: 1) the notaris registers it at the court, and the court will stamp the actual prenup/postnup (see my other post above for the wording of the stamp) 2) you then need to register it at the CatSip or KUA. It may be that this second part is now done automatically, but back in the early 2010s when I did mine I had to go to the CatSip and show them the prenup (I forget if they took a copy of it or not).

 

[scouser59]

The process is: 1) the notaris registers it at the court, and the court will stamp the actual prenup/postnup (see my other post above for the wording of the stamp) 2) you then need to register it at the CatSip or KUA. It may be that this second part is now done automatically, but back in the early 2010s when I did mine I had to go to the CatSip and show them the prenup (I forget if they took a copy of it or not).

Thats exactly what our notaris told us, with the second part being done automatically . That was a month ago.

 

[Zavia]

If we were to get married overseas, non-muslim, and not return to Indonesia for a while, is there a time frame to which we need to

A) Register the marriage at catatan sipil
B) Register the Pre-Nup/Pos-Nup at catatan sipil

or its just 60days from whenever we next return to Indonesia as a married couple?

 

[Helpful Herbert]

I think it's within 30 days of your arrival in Indonesia (whenever that will be) - you can hardly go to the CatSip if you're not in the country.

 

[blackred44]

If we were to get married overseas, non-muslim, and not return to Indonesia for a while, is there a time frame to which we need to

A) Register the marriage at catatan sipil
B) Register the Pre-Nup/Pos-Nup at catatan sipil

or its just 60days from whenever we next return to Indonesia as a married couple?

As far as I know (I was about to do this & already enquired the Indonesian officials but decided not to do it anyways), make sure before you return:

1. Check the nearest Indonesia Embassy or General Consulate office to get "Surat Kutipan Akta Perkawinan". Check their website for the full documents needed, example. Also if you live a state away from the nearest embassy, check if they allow to do it via postage service. Also check if the documents need the original one, legalised copy, or just copy documents. In my case they just told me to give the copy one and allow to do it over postage service with reply paid service. Usually phone call is not the best way to reach them for any enquiry, so social media is where I go (and email for last resort). AFAIK, no time frame limit on when to do this.
2. You need to register the marriage to Citizenship & Civil Record Dept (Disdukcapil, since you're non-moslem) in 30 days after you both return to Indonesia. Also register the pre/post nuptial together with this (I do not think there is specific time frame to register the pre/post nup). Check this link for more info on how to register the nuptial. Failed to register within 30 days, you can get administrative fines which not being specified as it is up to each regional government.

 

[Zavia]

I think it's within 30 days of your arrival in Indonesia (whenever that will be) - you can hardly go to the CatSip if you're not in the country.

Logic has never stopped the indonesian lawmakers. It is definitely a weird question to ask, but for this country I feel compelled to ask even such questions.

As far as I know (I was about to do this & already enquired the Indonesian officials but decided not to do it anyways), make sure before you return:

1. Check the nearest Indonesia Embassy or General Consulate office to get "Surat Kutipan Akta Perkawinan". Check their website for the full documents needed, example. Also if you live a state away from the nearest embassy, check if they allow to do it via postage service. Also check if the documents need the original one, legalised copy, or just copy documents. In my case they just told me to give the copy one and allow to do it over postage service with reply paid service. Usually phone call is not the best way to reach them for any enquiry, so social media is where I go (and email for last resort). AFAIK, no time frame limit on when to do this.
2. You need to register the marriage to Citizenship & Civil Record Dept (Disdukcapil, since you're non-moslem) in 30 days after you both return to Indonesia. Also register the pre/post nuptial together with this (I do not think there is specific time frame to register the pre/post nup). Check this link for more info on how to register the nuptial. Failed to register within 30 days, you can get administrative fines which not being specified as it is up to each regional government.

"Surat Kutipan Akta Perkawinan" so this is what they call the registering the marriage. Yea, I have a list of docs the Embassy needs pre and post marriage.

More night reading material! Thanks