Indonesia Government Using Spyware Against Opposition

[serious_fun]

Indonesia Government Using Spyware Against Opposition

The great irony is that the software is developed by an israeli firm, NSO Group . Maybe they can blame the israeli U-20 football squad?

Behind a paywall, sorry. This is what I copied from an email:


DEFENSE/SECURITY

Indonesia Government Using Spyware Against Opposition​

Pegasus on the prowl against activists, opposition pols​

OUR CORRESPONDENT
JUN 16, 2023
∙ PAID


The world's most sophisticated spyware Pegasus, a so-called “zero-click” program capable of reading text messages, tracking calls, collecting passwords, tracking locations, and accessing target devices' microphones and cameras surreptitiously, apparently has found its way into Indonesian state agencies to spy on opposition political figures and activists, according to the Jakarta-based journalism consortium IndonesiaLeaks.

Sakti Wahyu Trenggono, currently the minister of maritime affairs and fisheries, was said to have had a special room in his house where spyware was allegedly used to seek to tilt the president’s reelection bid in Jokowi’s favor, according to the report, which Sakti denied.

Once installed, Pegasus is said to be able to extract contacts, call logs, messages, photos, web browsing history, and settings in devices that supposedly are encrypted including but not limited to iMessage, WhatsApp, Telegram, and lesser programs including Gmail, Viber, Facebook and Skype without detection. It is said to be able to hide itself and self-destruct to eliminate evidence if unable to communicate with its command-and-control server for more than 60 days, or if on the wrong device. Pegasus can also self-destruct on command. It can be installed by setting up a wireless transceiver near a target device, or by gaining physical access to the device…

 

[Balifrog]

As used by dozens of other countries... included Germany.

Pegasus (spyware) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

USA say they didn't buy it because "too expensive".....let me be sceptical ....

Bon, they have the NSA anyway.

 

[MamangDudul]

What a surprise. I never thought this would be possible in Indonesia.

The USA even spies on the German Chancellor, which is then worth a few newspaper articles and then it's forgotten..but probably still continues.

 

[ChrisTex]

If there is an issue, the government will blame the people for not being careful or responsible enough when it comes to using technology. Then

 

[serious_fun]

A Web of Surveillance

Indonesia is relying on a murky ecosystem of surveillance suppliers, brokers and resellers that obscures the sale and transfer of surveillance technology.

An investigation has found evidence of extensive sales and deployment of highly invasive spyware and other surveillance technologies in Indonesia sourced from Israel, Greece, Singapore and Malaysia between 2017 and 2023.

They found buyers that included the Indonesian National Police (Kepala Kepolisian Negara Republik) and the National Cyber and Crypto Agency (Badan Siber dan Sandi Negara).

Surveillance suppliers whose products are identified in Indonesia in this research include Q Cyber Technologies (linked to NSO Group), the Intellexa consortium, Saito Tech (also known as Candiru), FinFisher and its wholly-owned subsidiary Raedarius M8 Sdn Bhd, and Wintego Systems.


Indonesia sneakily buys spyware

Report found here

 

[Balifrog]

Every government buys and uses them....

Look up the users of PEGASUS spyware (NSO Israel)

Pegasus (spyware) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

And that's just the official list.

Cameras, facial recognition....it's all over us.

 

[jstar]

Privacy does not exist here.

Just look at any news item TV program on Trans TV or Trans 7. Even the police shows suspects in nice orange suits and full names are easy to find in the local press.

So I’m not so worried of a government ‘spying’ on me. Just like the ridiculous uproar in countries like Germany of speed cameras that also make pictures of the driver(‘s face). “Can not, privacy!” Like I would care that a policeman in an office in Frankfurt would know I drove on the autobahn to Munich on 27 April?!

 

[Balifrog]

So I’m not so worried of a government ‘spying’ on me. Just like the ridiculous uproar in countries like Germany of speed cameras that also make pictures of the driver(‘s face). “Can not, privacy!” Like I would care that a policeman in an office in Frankfurt would know I drove on the autobahn to Munich on 27 April?!

This always make me smiling.... I don't mind being filmed / monitored because I have done nothing wrong !

What about manipulation, the data falling in the wrong hands, etc....?

Plenty examples regulary of persons being accused of ridiculous claims or accusations, just because being at the wrong time at the wrong place added them to the list of suspects.

 

[Pak Tani]

Like I would care that a policeman in an office in Frankfurt would know I drove on the autobahn to Munich on 27 April?!

Was that before or after your visit to the Hornstrasse?

 

[MamangDudul]

Saying that if you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to fear always amuses me. Cause at some point, if they all can continue like they please, there is really nothing to hide anymore. Maybe what was legal yesterday will be illegal tomorrow? Let's see if we all can be 100% model citizens if every aspect of our life is monitored and controlled. That's why I say, the west for example always mocks chinas social point system, but the west actually would have loved to be the first to use it haha. Too bad they told us for too long that we are "lupenreine" 100% democracies.
I know it's about what happened in Indonesia now, but it's a world wide thing.

 

[Balifrog]

Maybe what was legal yesterday will be illegal tomorrow?

Covigedon was a perfect example of governments testing the limits...

Now they know, as long they do a good drama preparation work.

Ukraine war, Gaza war, save the planet..... if you don't follow the official doxa, you are immediately guilty.

Even if you have done nothing except expressing your position within the "freedom of speech" limits...

They can change the limits overnight, and they do it !

 

[MamangDudul]

Covigedon was a perfect example of governments testing the limits...

Now they know, as long they do a good drama preparation work.

Ukraine war, Gaza war, save the planet..... if you don't follow the official doxa, you are immediately guilty.

Even if you have done nothing except expressing your position within the "freedom of speech" limits...

They can change the limits overnight, and they do it !

Exactly my thoughts also.
The sad thing is, so many people buy into all of that and defend it viciously. That's why things have to get (and for sure will) a lot more bad before there will ever be a chance for improvement and then, there's also no guarantee that we will not have to the same BS in different colours.

 

[MamangDudul]

Just for the fun of it:

 

[jstar]

Well, the usual conspiracy thinkers here have found each other once again.

 

[MamangDudul]

Well, the usual conspiracy thinkers here have found each other once again.

Yeah the problem with many peopl who say this kind of stuff is that you throw flat earth and the moon landing BS in the same pot as things that are just happening in front of all our eyes.
What does that make you? A denier? I wouldnt wanna judge that. Iam over trying to persuade people to believe this or that. Time will tell what happens.
So something like Pegasus and Co. or social points are a conspiracy? And programmes like Pegasus wouldnt make it much more easy and effective implementing and controlling stuff like social points? Well ok. The earth is flat.

 

[snpark]

As soon as you come out your Mum's thingy you have a name and number and a pic taken

Give me your mobile number and Mcdonalds can give me your address and if you like sweet n sour sauce or not

In UK there is even a book Yellow Pages with every single household land line phone number

Every other house has a CCTV on their driveway as you walk past

Every ayam walks into a bar or club or even fine dining resto with her iphone held out in front and the spotlight on happily scanning left to right recording everyone and commenting sayang look where I am

Calll your friend and say "Treadstone, White house, Inauguration, Peppermill, Bluebottle, Bumblebee" and wait for the sirens

 

[MamangDudul]

As soon as you come out your Mum's thingy you have a name and number and a pic taken

Give me your mobile number and Mcdonalds can give me your address and if you like sweet n sour sauce or not

In UK there is even a book Yellow Pages with every single household land line phone number

Every other house has a CCTV on their driveway as you walk past

Every ayam walks into a bar or club or even fine dining resto with her iphone held out in front and the spotlight on happily scanning left to right recording everyone and commenting sayang look where I am

Calll your friend and say "Treadstone, White house, Inauguration, Peppermill, Bluebottle, Bumblebee" and wait for the sirens

Yeah and nobody thinks about how all of this might bite us in the ass one day. Ya..we all have nothing to hide.
I mean, actually Iam not even paranoid about this kind of stuff but still see it. It is what it is.

 

[Samoerai]

A lot of people have plenty things to hide ... e.g. password and bank accounts. Specially the ones in Panama, Bahamas. Singapore

 

[snpark]

As been said before, if to access your account and send a transfer you only relying on one password for the whole process, you deserve to be scammed

 

[Balifrog]

Well, the usual conspiracy thinkers here have found each other once again.

Mmmm, what about "critical thinking", common sense, analyse..... ?

Oops, that's not allowed anymore....