Explosion At Kampung Melayu

[Davita]

I find it hard to figure out, the British government say they cannot remove the passports, I don't understand this as the passports actually belong to the government, they have been abused, so cancel them,

I don't know where you got that info from...here is the official UK stand on issuing or relinquishing UK passports....
"For example, passport facilities may be refused to or withdrawn from British nationals who may seek to harm the UK or its allies by travelling on a British passport to, for example, engage in terrorism-related activity or other serious or organised criminal activity.
This may include individuals who seek to engage in fighting, extremist activity or terrorist training outside the United Kingdom, for example, and then return to the UK with enhanced capabilities that they then use to conduct an attack on UK."

 

[Anglian]

I find it hard to believe that if that is the case why are they letting these nutters with their wives back into the country, it appears there are many who have returned wandering around the U.K. I'm assuming they cannot cancel there passports because they haven't as far as I know cancelled any passport, I feel they should reall buckup as these evil sods are now queuing up to leave now it all gone tits up, it appears many from Indonesia have gone to the Philippines to continue the evil aims

 

[fastpitch17]

Blame the DPR. At first, Indonesia said they could go after anyone here that pledged allegiance to ISIS. They apprehended people with ISIS flags and recruitment material. Those were asked if they took the ISIS oath and of course, they said not yet. They were released since there was no law to hold them unless they were directly involved with criminal activity. The police labeled them as just inquisitive. Then they said that they could take away the passports of any returning fighter. The law states this is the penalty for anyone who swears allegiance to a foreign nation or fights for a foreign nations military. Some DPR members and Indonesian Human Rights people said, oh no. ISIS is not a foreign nation nor government so that law doesn't apply. S, Indonesia has no laws that would apply to returning fighters associated with terrorist groups. To pretend like they are doing something, returning fighters and families that went with them are placed into a re-indoctrination program. I understand this to last 3 to 10 days depending on indoctrinated you are. The program is religious by nature. In the mean time, the DPR took up a bill to deal with them. It's been over a year now and there is still arguments on the wording. No matter how week it is there are some saying it is too hard on the individuals returning. Almost looks like support of the ISIS fighters in parts of the DPR. With the DPR's record of getting anything that doesn't affect their personal wealth done, who knows when anyone will see this done. For now, not to worry. The Police say that once the bad guys go trough the program you don't need to worry. They are all good boys and girls.

 

[jstar]

It also bothers me somewhat now to take Turkish (and even the three Middle Eastern) Airlines.

They are obviously cheaper than any other if you're coming from a European airport, but if you consider what is / could be on board, it does not really add to your sense of safety.

 

[kratos]

Total eradication needed for them, Suharto style. Their minds are like zombies, they cud bite people and infect others....

 

[mauricio]

Blame the DPR. At first, Indonesia said they could go after anyone here that pledged allegiance to ISIS. They apprehended people with ISIS flags and recruitment material. Those were asked if they took the ISIS oath and of course, they said not yet. They were released since there was no law to hold them unless they were directly involved with criminal activity. The police labeled them as just inquisitive. Then they said that they could take away the passports of any returning fighter. The law states this is the penalty for anyone who swears allegiance to a foreign nation or fights for a foreign nations military. Some DPR members and Indonesian Human Rights people said, oh no. ISIS is not a foreign nation nor government so that law doesn't apply. S, Indonesia has no laws that would apply to returning fighters associated with terrorist groups. To pretend like they are doing something, returning fighters and families that went with them are placed into a re-indoctrination program. I understand this to last 3 to 10 days depending on indoctrinated you are. The program is religious by nature. In the mean time, the DPR took up a bill to deal with them. It's been over a year now and there is still arguments on the wording. No matter how week it is there are some saying it is too hard on the individuals returning. Almost looks like support of the ISIS fighters in parts of the DPR. With the DPR's record of getting anything that doesn't affect their personal wealth done, who knows when anyone will see this done. For now, not to worry. The Police say that once the bad guys go trough the program you don't need to worry. They are all good boys and girls.

Bits & pieces of what my wife told me after watching Metro TV on 24/25 May;

1. The TV guest is a former high-ranking official involved in fighting terrorism.
2. There are many ISIS sympathizers in government (probably police & military too).
3. Intelligence knows who the radicals are, but cannot do anything unless they broke the law. He described it as fish in the aquarium, you can see them but cannot touch them.
4. The rehabilitation/re-indoctrination/de-radicalization program is not working, almost all of them still believe that it is okay to kill an infidel.
5. A tenth of SMA students are ISIS sympathizers, according to a survey.
6. Majority of SMA students do not agree with Pancasila and Bhinneka Tunggal Ika.
7. Majority of SMA students think the country should be religious and Islamic.
8. Majority of SD students do not want to be friends with non-Muslims.
9. There are more but she forgot the rest… sorry (I’ll update if she remember).

From reading the newspaper (Kompas) and watching Metro TV, minorities in Indonesia can expect more intolerance in the years to come (when the SD & SMA students become adults).