A middle East perspective

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Palestinians for all sorts of good reason believe that Gaza, Palestine and much of what is now called Israel really belongs to them. The Zionists know that God meant them to have this land. Here's a brilliant link that puts it all into a terrible perspective.

 
Please enlighten us as to how the Zionists know God said this land is theirs? Did a large voice come booming out of the clouds? I always heard that it's OK to talk to God, but when God talks to you and you hear voices, your crazy! (Joan of Arc) One ringy dingy, two ringy dingy, three ringy dingy! Hello God, I heard you just gave us this land called Zion, is this True? But there are these people called Palestinian's already there! What do we do? Slowly eradicate them! OK got it! Can I have my quarter back for this call?
Palestinians for all sorts of good reason believe that Gaza, Palestine and much of what is now called Israel really belongs to them. The Zionists know that God meant them to have this land. Here's a brilliant link that puts it all into a terrible perspective.

Wow, that was a crazy video! It shows the madness in thinking you own Land? It's like saying you own Water, Air,Sunshine, the Moon! You get the point! Me Preciuoshhh!
 
What a load of fanatical B.S.

Better look at this serie (4 episodes) to learn the history of Palestine and the behaviour of the Brits and the Jews !

I will watch this. Yes I agree it is a load of fanatical B.S.
 
Palestinians for all sorts of good reason believe that Gaza, Palestine and much of what is now called Israel really belongs to them. The Zionists know that God meant them to have this land. Here's a brilliant link that puts it all into a terrible perspective.


Did they get that in writing?
With meterai ?
 
Now call Palestine "Ukraine"
And Israel "Russia"

Why so different

Palestine has belonged legally and rightfully to Palestinians for decades until the Brits and UN fukxced them over and said Israel could illegally occupy it
 
I had no idea this all started so much earlier than the 1950's. I just watched the first of this series and am blown away! How sad for those farmers to lose all that beautiful land to colonial rule! This is exactly what happened to the US also! I have to stop calling it America because it's an insult to all the rest of America! (Central and South) Those Brits were clever and probably thought Hey! If we create Israel, we can get rid of all these Jews, and have a place in the Arab world to control and keep our foot in the door! Brilliant idea!
The US government thought Hey! what a great idea! Let's get in on this, so we can have a foothold over there too! So they've been sending Money and weapons by the boatload ever since and brainwashing all the people to have sympathy on these Poor Jews! Oay Vay!
 
Still, things could have been so much worse. I read somewhere that the Dutch had the worst colonial system because they are well known racists and apartheid practitioners.
Luckily the Palestinians have been under British mandate; they left a good administrative system.
 
Still, things could have been so much worse. I read somewhere that the Dutch had the worst colonial system because they are well known racists and apartheid practitioners.
Luckily the Palestinians have been under British mandate; they left a good administrative system.
The Brits screwed the Palestinians big time.
Later the US and UN took over and finished the job....
"The great replacement" !
 
Still, things could have been so much worse. I read somewhere that the Dutch had the worst colonial system because they are well known racists and apartheid practitioners.
Luckily the Palestinians have been under British mandate; they left a good administrative system.
Mandate, not colonial rule. If they were under rule, they coud tech them some tips and tricks. Palestine was, same as Arabs, under the Ottoman Turkey for hundreds of years.
 
Now call Palestine "Ukraine"
And Israel "Russia"

Why so different

Palestine has belonged legally and rightfully to Palestinians for decades until the Brits and UN fukxced them over and said Israel could illegally occupy it
Actually it belonged to the Ottoman Empire. Palestine was never a state.
 
Those Brits were clever and probably thought Hey! If we create Israel, we can get rid of all these Jews, and have a place in the Arab world to control and keep our foot in the door! Brilliant idea!

This had crossed my mind:unsure:
 
This had crossed my mind:unsure:
Glad you at least gave it a thought. If you watched that 4 part series about the Brits and Jews, you would have seen a brief segment of all these Jewish ladies working around a table with piles of Diamonds! They are still doing this in New York City. These people are very, very, wealthy and smart business people. Let them pay for Israel!!! The Governments of the World should stop supporting these people with piles of money and weapons!
They have plenty of their own! But they are very good at acting like the poor, poor mistreated Jewish people!! Yada Yada!
 
Glad you at least gave it a thought. If you watched that 4 part series about the Brits and Jews, you would have seen a brief segment of all these Jewish ladies working around a table with piles of Diamonds! They are still doing this in New York City. These people are very, very, wealthy and smart business people. Let them pay for Israel!!! The Governments of the World should stop supporting these people with piles of money and weapons!
They have plenty of their own! But they are very good at acting like the poor, poor mistreated Jewish people!! Yada Yada!
This is spilling over into antisemitism. During my 20s I began to do have a lot with the Jewish community in Melbourne. There are good Jews and bad Jews and as I have previously said the extremist Zionists who live with the arrogant assumption that they are God's chosen and deserve to take the land of Palestinians. This is the kind of thinking which has much to do with the present war and the lack of empathy for the long occupied territory of Palestine and blockade of Gaza. That said there are many Jews who do not hold these kind of extreme, inhumane views. As for very wealthy Jews, yes there are but much of that wealth stems from the encouragement of the intelligence of Jewish children as they grow up. I was most impressed with Jewish families and the manner in which they encouraged their childrens' powers of reasoning whereas in the general, working class Australian community growing, questioning children were often greeted with, "Ask your father" and then, "Ask your mother" or "Go out play" or even, "Shut up."

There is no denying there is a powerful Zionist lobby in the US that effects US foreign policy and in Australia Zionists are quick to jump on anyone critical of Israel or Israelies. That said it does not justify blanket anti-Jewish statements to deny the decency of many Jews and those who have contributed generously across the spectrum of social activity not to many the many brilliant, scientists, doctors, artists, musicians and other creative people.

In the 50s I heard people say. "Hitler did not do a good enough job." So easy to fall into the trap of repeating these old shibboleths that are inherent in the underlying racism that perpetuates stereotypes and hatreds.
 
This is spilling over into antisemitism. During my 20s I began to do have a lot with the Jewish community in Melbourne. There are good Jews and bad Jews and as I have previously said the extremist Zionists who live with the arrogant assumption that they are God's chosen and deserve to take the land of Palestinians. This is the kind of thinking which has much to do with the present war and the lack of empathy for the long occupied territory of Palestine and blockade of Gaza. That said there are many Jews who do not hold these kind of extreme, inhumane views. As for very wealthy Jews, yes there are but much of that wealth stems from the encouragement of the intelligence of Jewish children as they grow up. I was most impressed with Jewish families and the manner in which they encouraged their childrens' powers of reasoning whereas in the general, working class Australian community growing, questioning children were often greeted with, "Ask your father" and then, "Ask your mother" or "Go out play" or even, "Shut up."

There is no denying there is a powerful Zionist lobby in the US that effects US foreign policy and in Australia Zionists are quick to jump on anyone critical of Israel or Israelies. That said it does not justify blanket anti-Jewish statements to deny the decency of many Jews and those who have contributed generously across the spectrum of social activity not to many the many brilliant, scientists, doctors, artists, musicians and other creative people.

In the 50s I heard people say. "Hitler did not do a good enough job." So easy to fall into the trap of repeating these old shibboleths that are inherent in the underlying racism that perpetuates stereotypes and hatreds.
I don't mean to be criticizing honest hard working people. You forgot to acknowledge the part about rich Diamond merchants taking care of their own! You are absolutely right about all the creative, talented, skilled, Jewish people! Leonard Cohen, Bob Dylan, Steven Spielberg, Bette Midler, Liberace, Paul Zuckerberg etc! So please excuse me if you think I am on the edge of antisemitism. I am not! I was just mentioning about all the wealth they already have!
 

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