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    Trump Indicted for Conspiracy To Change the 2020 Election

    But you presented 2 whites vs 1 blacks shot as proof that the police weren’t targeting black people. When that was refuted you moved the goalpost.
  2. Nimbus

    Trump Indicted for Conspiracy To Change the 2020 Election

    Police as an institution don’t target blacks, but they have done a poor job policing bad racist cops among them. People know mistakes happen and nobody’s perfect, but when the officers concerned routinely get off with just a suspension or job termination, it becomes a problem. The court with...
  3. Nimbus

    Trump Indicted for Conspiracy To Change the 2020 Election

    I think you should be careful with numbers unless you have a decent grasp of statistics. You think these numbers prove your point? Let me add one number: 12%. Black people make up 12% of the population, so about 1 in 8. You’re telling me 1 out of 3 people shot is black, while they only make...
  4. Nimbus

    Trump Indicted for Conspiracy To Change the 2020 Election

    People celebrate the BLM because they are imperfect but they are basically good, because they’re about bringing increased accountability to the police. Very few police officers got in jail for unjustified killing, at most they were just fired, then they would find a job with the neighboring PD...
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    Trump Indicted for Conspiracy To Change the 2020 Election

    It’s a time honored tradition from Suharto’s time. There’s an interesting procedure in Indonesia’s police investigation protocol called ‘rekonstruksi’, where the perp is taken to the scene of the crime and forced to simulate his offense. When they refused to cooperate, the newspapers often...
  6. Nimbus

    Trump Indicted for Conspiracy To Change the 2020 Election

    Agree. Yet 40ish % of Americans see the imperfect police as good but the imperfect BLM as bad.
  7. Nimbus

    Trump Indicted for Conspiracy To Change the 2020 Election

    Nobody. It seems like you were never part of a movement? Not even the Tea Party? I was part of the Reformasi movement that eventually pushed Suharto to resign back in 1998. Those who supported the movement were fed up by his corruption and especially alarmed by his attempt to create a dynasty...
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    Trump Indicted for Conspiracy To Change the 2020 Election

    Ah, in America such contracts were called indentured servitude or involuntary servitude. They weren’t outlawed until the 13th amendment to the constitution was ratified in 1865.
  9. Nimbus

    Trump Indicted for Conspiracy To Change the 2020 Election

    You’re still talking as if BLM is nothing but a top-down organization. This is about as valid as calling Tea Party Patriots the embodiment of the Tea Party movement. Further discussion is fruitless if this is your stance.
  10. Nimbus

    Trump Indicted for Conspiracy To Change the 2020 Election

    Black Lives Matter is a movement, then somebody created an organization with the same name purporting to support the network. That legal organization doesn’t call the shots. https://www.loc.gov/item/lcwaN0016241/
  11. Nimbus

    Trump Indicted for Conspiracy To Change the 2020 Election

    Stores in America or Australia?
  12. Nimbus

    Trump Indicted for Conspiracy To Change the 2020 Election

    BLM is a movement, not a monolithic centralized organization. The vast majority of the protests (93%) were peaceful, but it never stopped about 42% of people to think that protesters were trying to incite violence and destroy property. Now where did I hear this 40-ish percent figure again…...
  13. Nimbus

    Trump Indicted for Conspiracy To Change the 2020 Election

    Some people who support immigrant rights are calling for the abolishment (not defunding) of the ICE. Others who support gun rights call for the abolishment (not defunding) of the ATF. Both are stupid. Despite being a victim of discrimination and occasional brutality by the police, why did they...
  14. Nimbus

    Trump Indicted for Conspiracy To Change the 2020 Election

    It was my mistake, confusing Martin with Floyd. Unfortunately there are so many names. Let me bring over two concepts: draconian and double standard. Draco was a legislator in ancient Greece who started writing the constitution for Athens. There was basically only one type of punishment...
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    Trump Indicted for Conspiracy To Change the 2020 Election

    It is funny, but the reality is there are sides to this. Maybe I’m biased because I hung around deplorables with guns (and lived in Alabama and Georgia for nearly a decade), but many were making memes and mocking the ‘I can’t breathe’ thing. Yes, they make fun of the unarmed guy who died because...
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    Trump Indicted for Conspiracy To Change the 2020 Election

    The other side has been cheering for the BLM side getting shot for a while. As a gun owner and carrier I frequented gun forums where the vast majority are conservatives, so I know their lingo, dog whistles, and general opinion on the subject. I don’t know if the January 6 crowd is here on this...
  17. Nimbus

    Trump Indicted for Conspiracy To Change the 2020 Election

    Right, but they had no problem shooting many unarmed black people in other circumstances. The entire BLM thing was due to the police being too heavy handed to unarmed black people. It’s hard to sympathize with the MAGA crowd crying about being shot at by the police, when they actively reject the...
  18. Nimbus

    Trump Indicted for Conspiracy To Change the 2020 Election

    It’s the lesser of two evils, and it’s not hard when you look at the other guy. They can literally do nothing and still be a better choice for non religious Americans.
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    Trump Indicted for Conspiracy To Change the 2020 Election

    Shot an unarmed woman who were actively breaking down a door to get in. If somebody is breaking down the door to my house, in Indiana I’d be legally justified to use deadly force.

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