Omicron

[Ruserious]

Is the new variant more deadly? I saw some anecdotal comments about it infecting younger people but that seemed to connect with them also being more unvaccinated and it didnt really say how sick they got.

 

[centurion]

Is the new variant more deadly? I saw some anecdotal comments about it infecting younger people but that seemed to connect with them also being more unvaccinated and it didnt really say how sick they got.

According to the SA doctors very mild symptoms.

South African Doctor Says Patient With Omicron Variant Has Very Mild Symptoms, Can Be Treated At Home

A South African doctor who was one of the first to suspect a different strain of coronavirus among patients, said on Sunday the symptoms of the Omicron variant have so far been mild and can be treated at home.

voi.id

 

[fastpitch17]

According to the SA doctors very mild symptoms.

South African Doctor Says Patient With Omicron Variant Has Very Mild Symptoms, Can Be Treated At Home

A South African doctor who was one of the first to suspect a different strain of coronavirus among patients, said on Sunday the symptoms of the Omicron variant have so far been mild and can be treated at home.

voi.id

Younger people, College students were the first and younger normally have lighter symptoms. SA experts are saying just that. They do not have the data where anything much can be told about this varient, only the cases in the younger people. Wait a couple weeks and you will get some info on severity, how fast it can spread, and how it reacts to vaccines. They are working on all this now but right now, there are no answers. Only assumptions of what is possible based on any relationship to other viruses in regards to the many mutations this virus has. It has more than any other covid virus so yes,a reason to be cautious.

As for the spread. Chances are very good it is already all around the globe. Hard to detect if not testing for it. Now, they are and I think you will find it everywhere they are testing. Of course, while some gov say they are testing, probably not or they are keeping it under wraps to get the tourist back.

SA has some pretty strict exit travel requirements. 2 vaccines, PCR test, and testing upon arrival. Probably no reason for all these travel bans. Probably too late any way.

 

[centurion]

Younger people, College students were the first and younger normally have lighter symptoms. SA experts are saying just that. They do not have the data where anything much can be told about this varient, only the cases in the younger people. Wait a couple weeks and you will get some info on severity, how fast it can spread, and how it reacts to vaccines. They are working on all this now but right now, there are no answers. Only assumptions of what is possible based on any relationship to other viruses in regards to the many mutations this virus has. It has more than any other covid virus so yes,a reason to be cautious.

As for the spread. Chances are very good it is already all around the globe. Hard to detect if not testing for it. Now, they are and I think you will find it everywhere they are testing. Of course, while some gov say they are testing, probably not or they are keeping it under wraps to get the tourist back.

SA has some pretty strict exit travel requirements. 2 vaccines, PCR test, and testing upon arrival. Probably no reason for all these travel bans. Probably too late any way.

This article is actually taken from Reuters so should have some credibility. It does not mention any college students, and if it has any connection with students maybe a source would be helpful.

According to other sources, the new variant is five times more infectious than THE delta, so it should be dominant very fast. If it is very mild, it would be maybe&hopefully, the end of the pandemic, as everybody will get infected.

 

[fastpitch17]

This article is actually taken from Reuters so should have some credibility. It does not mention any college students, and if it has any connection with students maybe a source would be helpful.

According to other sources, the new variant is five times more infectious than THE delta, so it should be dominant very fast. If it is very mild, it would be maybe&hopefully, the end of the pandemic, as everybody will get infected.

Actually my say wasn't taken from any particular source. It came from an assirtment of sources and yes, the early SA cases were primarily college students. There is nothing anywhere reliable stating that this varient spreads faster or is more severe. Doctors treating the current SA cases are saying the symptoms are mild to moderate and not needing hospital care. Wait the two weeks to formulate the data and then everyone can say this or that. In the mean time, no one actually knows anything factual and this forum shouldn't be a place to spit out falsehoods and guesses.

 

[centurion]

There is nothing anywhere reliable stating that this varient spreads faster or is more severe.

These crystal healers and shamans said could be 500% more infective 3 days ago. 500% means 5x.
Where are the data about the infected students?

COVID: What we know about the omicron variant

Where has the B.1.1.529 been detected, how virulent is it and how did it develop? DW looks at what we know about the new coronavirus variant, dubbed "omicron" by the WHO.

www.dw.com

Omicron variant could be 500% more infectious than Delta

THE new Omicron variant of Covid has sparked alarm and swift travel restrictions across the globe, as one scientist warned initial findings show the new variant is "500 percent more infectious" than the Delta variant.

www.express.co.uk

 

[fastpitch17]

Where are the data about the infected students?

It was an interview with a big wig doctor from SA Ministry of Health on CNN Monday. Students as in college students.

 

[centurion]

Piece of good journalism, much different than usual American propaganda

 

[Dave70]

According to the SA doctors very mild symptoms.

South African Doctor Says Patient With Omicron Variant Has Very Mild Symptoms, Can Be Treated At Home

A South African doctor who was one of the first to suspect a different strain of coronavirus among patients, said on Sunday the symptoms of the Omicron variant have so far been mild and can be treated at home.

voi.id

 

[fastpitch17]

Piece of good journalism, much different than usual American propaganda

According to you we shouldn't believe her since she was on CNN yesterday stating basically the same thing. Damn American media. When will they ever learn?

 

[centurion]

When they stop making propaganda and fearmongering instead of news.

 

[centurion]

The SA doctor said "The symptoms at that stage are strongly associated with normal viral infections. And since we haven't seen COVID-19 for the past eight to 10 weeks, we decided to do a test," she said, adding that the patient and her family turned out to be positive, cited from Reuters, November 29

Moderate to severe cases should be in normal covid around 20%, so they would pile up in the meantime, for these 8-10 weeks as they claim.

 

[fastpitch17]

Oh oh, more nasty propaganda from US news. SA was not the first to have this new variant it seems. Existed in at least Europe before SA discovered it. Other labs in Europe are now finding it as they retest earlier samples. It would seem SA is just better at evaluating and testing than most nations. Of course, since this was reported in US media we should just really ignore it. Propaganda. Evidently better to get our information from the Russian or Chinese media.

 

[centurion]

I suppose Cuomo Prime Time was your favorite show.

 

[Balifrog]

Oh oh, more nasty propaganda from US news. SA was not the first to have this new variant it seems. Existed in at least Europe before SA discovered it. Other labs in Europe are now finding it as they retest earlier samples. It would seem SA is just better at evaluating and testing than most nations. Of course, since this was reported in US media we should just really ignore it. Propaganda. Evidently better to get our information from the Russian or Chinese media.

Correct, the way the world, US in front, attacks SA is a shame.
They were the first to analyse and report it, it doesn't mean SA is the source / origin of this new variant.

Read this. I believe The Guardian above most US news outlets..

Israeli doctor believes he caught Omicron variant of Covid in London

Exclusive: Cardiologist Elad Maor suspects he caught virus at conference attended by more than 1,200 people

www.theguardian.com

"A doctor who was one of the first people in the world to become infected with the Omicron variant says he believes he caught the virus when he was in London for a major medical conference attended by more than 1,200 health professionals.

The disclosure from Elad Maor will raise fears that the variant may have been in the UK much earlier than previously realised – and that other medics could have been exposed to it too."

 

[fastpitch17]

I suppose Cuomo Prime Time was your favorite show.

Sorry, never a fan. Awww, another bubble burst. I think he might have been on very early morning here and the TV isn't on until maybe evening. FYI, CNN does have a web site with lots you can read or see. Imagine that, 21st Century and they already have a web site. Damn, technology at full speed.

 

[Missnaughty]

Omicron is in the US, the TV said it is in 14 states.. i bet it’s already everywhere . and nope.. nothing change in Texas.. life just roll on… as normal. Only everything is just sooo expensive!!

 

[ChrisTex]

On a serious note, since omicron was first detected, has anyone seen a spike in cases/deaths being reported? This time last year, the UK variant was announced, there were new cases, quarantine added, entry restrictions, etc.... Last June, delta is announced, lots of cases and back to lockdown. Now, it is just extended quarantine and entry restrictions.

 

[R Cameron]

On a serious note, since omicron was first detected, has anyone seen a spike in cases/deaths being reported?

Cases have spiked FAST in South Africa, prominently of the Omicron variant. Deaths usually trail by 2-4 weeks, so it remains to be seen how this variant compares in virulence.

 

[gemima]

On a serious note, since omicron was first detected, has anyone seen a spike in cases/deaths being reported? This time last year, the UK variant was announced, there were new cases, quarantine added, entry restrictions, etc.... Last June, delta is announced, lots of cases and back to lockdown. Now, it is just extended quarantine and entry restrictions.

I think they caught this so early that we just don't know yet. When the UK variant was noticed it was already widespread in the UK - I think they caught this one earlier (or SA caught it in a region of very poor surveillance so we just don't know anything...esp since the age demographics of many southern African countries skew v young - even in south africa I think only about 6% of the population is 65+)...I don't think we can make any judgements till it starts spreading somewhere in the west.