'The new Bali '

there is quite a simple way to stop plastic packaging- ban it. Ban the manufacture of it, ban the import of it. BUT that will not happen.
Same as there is a way to cut pollution & traffic in Jakarta- ban vehicles. Go back to the way it was before the combustion engines kicked in- would it be seen as progressive or prehistoric- well , who am I to say, but it would be an immediate & effective solution.
With what we know now it really grinds my gears seeing stuff like lemons packaged individually in plastic. That was at Grand Lucky supermarket. It's like watching a pregnant woman smoking.
 
Not to worry. Tourist Minister Sandiaga has it all covered for Bali. After making Bali his personal and professional playground, now he gets many government employees to come on with him.



OK, so you ad these people's cash to Bali. So, what do you do about the cash you are taking from other places to do this? This is one of the stupidest ideas out there. Just one of many from this self serving minister.

This is his actual job - browsing online for ridiculous ideas and then issuing a press release. Here's the latest one:

Yes I'm sure getting people from Jakarta to fly to Bali for a vaccine is much better than vaccinating them in Jakarta (facepalm).
 
This is his actual job - browsing online for ridiculous ideas and then issuing a press release. Here's the latest one:

Yes I'm sure getting people from Jakarta to fly to Bali for a vaccine is much better than vaccinating them in Jakarta (facepalm).
I just have to wonder who is around this guy when he pops out these gems. He needs an editor or an actual ideas guy or something. I know you have to put out content to stay relevant these days, but come on, all these "blah blah in Bali!“ ideas feel like they came directly off a bar napkin without the benefit of sobering up before the news conference.
 
Today's genius plan:

Medical tourism in a country where medical care is so bad that politicians go abroad to get treatment, and where all foreign doctors are banned.
 
Glyphosate used in Roundup and other Monsanto weed-killing products is a known carcinogen. In 2018, Monsanto was ordered to pay a record $289 million to Mr. Dewayne Johnson, a groundskeeper in California, among 5000 other claimants, due to failing to warn consumers of the dangers of Glyphosate. Did you see warning notices in Depot Bangunan? I suspect not.
Of course not but seeing they had no idea what it was to begin with, why expect something like that?
 
Glyphosate used in Roundup and other Monsanto weed-killing products is a known carcinogen. In 2018, Monsanto was ordered to pay a record $289 million to Mr. Dewayne Johnson, a groundskeeper in California, among 5000 other claimants, due to failing to warn consumers of the dangers of Glyphosate. Did you see warning notices in Depot Bangunan? I suspect not.
Aside from the health concerns, which are major, I just don't like the way this stuff is used by land owners. I know someone who still uses it to spray huge areas of his plantation on a yearly basis. The areas he has frequently sprayed have had more timber losses due to root problems. I didn't do any formal analysis, but it walked those lots frequently, and I think the roundup was the differential factor. They were fine trees, too, right up until the fell over.

Then there is the soil loss problem, killing off all the ground cover, here in the tropics, in the rainy season...

Additionally, anything that kills off all the ground cover is going be selecting for future growth those plants which are fastest growing and most invasive, which is the opposite result from what he actually wants. It's nuking the place to kill the roaches (which colloquially survive nuclear explosions).

I do still have a few liters lying around somewhere. Too tight to throw it away, but I hate it too much to use it casually.
 
Oh, dear. Lake Toba. Well, there is a paradise of the Garden Of Eden screwed.
 
I see a lot of Budweiser singlets in its future.
"Saipan is the largest of the Northern Mariana islands located in the western Pacific Ocean, about a six-hour flight away from Brisbane."

The 6 hour flight may discourage some people ?
 
It seems to have a rather seedy sex industry which is often associated with a drug trade. The combination would suggest a significant level of corruption. But then have never been there and probably an unlikely proposition for me. Thailand's problems with drugs and crime are perhaps an indicator of where Saipan might be headed. Had a pleasant stopover in Guam and that is about as close as I might get.
 
"Saipan is the largest of the Northern Mariana islands located in the western Pacific Ocean, about a six-hour flight away from Brisbane."

The 6 hour flight may discourage some people ?
I can't speak for Aussies but after seeing what Saipan has to offer I'd never go there. If I wanted beaches with no waves and Chinese food, I'd just go to Pulau Seribu then eat somewhere in Pluit.
 
I spent 7 years on Guam with trips in and out of Saipan. That was quite a while ago. At that time Guam was the honeymoon destination for Japanese newlyweds but Saipan was starting to get some of them as well as the tiny island if Rota. Saipan has always had their radar on to increase tourism and have spent some cash developing it over the years. Their primary targets were Asia but I am sure that if Australians indicated they might like that possibility, Saipan will retool for the down under tourist. I have never know Saipan to be much of a surfer's magnet tough and that won't help. Diving and snorkling are great on the reef side. The other side being the Marianas trench gets a little dark. Same for Guam but I think Guam has more beaches and a little more surf.

I still have a few friends between Guam and Saipan and if you want to talk about drugs and prostitution then look more at Guam. Guam has been sitting on 45% unemployment leading up to the pandemic whereas, Saipan went after the pandemic and didn't have the outbreak Guam did. I can certainly see some of the dealers and girls heading to Saipan if that is where the business is but from what I know of the 2, Guam's law enforcement could not stand up to Saipans. Not saying Saipan has great law enforcement but much better than Guams.

Guam is also a US military island. Air Force base, Navel station, Navel repair facility, submarine base, Navel communications base, Navel Air base, as well as the US Army building on it. If there is a club, there are military personnel. Massage parlors are full of military personnel. The military is Guam's biggest economy. Not so Saipan.

If there ever gets to be serious competition between the 2, it will get ugly. Guam and Saipan natives goes way beyond just not liking each other. Guam was US territory before the Japanese invaded in WWII. Saipan was Japanese territory from before the war. After the Japanese took over Guam they brought in community leaders, overseer's, and spys from Saipan. Bad blood until this day.

Of the 4 close Islands, Guam, Rota, Tinian, and Saipan, my favorite was always Rota. 64 miles from Guam and you fly on a 16 passenger turbo prop. One road the goes around the island but many paths to drive down if dry. A lot of WWII reckage still lays hidden in the jungle. A natural pool that raises and falls with the tide. There is an all inclusive Japanese hotel on the island but the visitors never seem to leave the property except on some kind if road safari that just traveled along the one road. Outsiders do not get in either. We tried a few times. There was another hotel. At that time it was the Blue Peninsula. A friend owned it at that time. Had a restaurant where if you brought in your catch, they would cook it. Sometimes those catches were lobsters grabbed right off shore. Otherwise they had their own really good food. Rooms were cheap and the sort if place everyone hung out in a veranda in the evening going into the early morning hours. Beer was always cold and plentiful. More suited for the island vagabond traveler. One bar besides the Blue Peninsula on the island. Everyone is really friendly.

Tinian has little to offer besides the runway where the Engola Gay took off from to drop the A bomb on Heroshima. Otherwise they have the only fresh milk opperation that services the islands.
I can see Saipan picking up some Australian travelers but their money will still come from the Asian tourist. I can't see Bali getting too hurt by Saipan's push. Well, as long as this nation can get their shit together and get the nation vaccinated. I think travel cost will play into it also. Will cost a lot more to get to and from Saipan than it does for Bali. Plus, cost of goods is a lot higher in Saipan. Everything is shipped via container into the island with some perisable food items air freight. I remember when prices in the Mariana's islands were close to 5 times those of the US mainland. Hawaii even has cheaper cost.

Puspa lived in the Marianas islands and now in Hawaii. Maybe she can add more insight.
 
Thailand's problems with drugs and crime are perhaps an indicator of where Saipan might be headed.
You think Thailand has a problem with drugs and crime more than anyone else? I lived there for 5 years and consider it one of the safest places I've ever stayed. Even safer than Indonesia in my experience. Maybe you were hanging out in the wrong places.
 
You think Thailand has a problem with drugs and crime more than anyone else? I lived there for 5 years and consider it one of the safest places I've ever stayed. Even safer than Indonesia in my experience. Maybe you were hanging out in the wrong places.
Probably depends which areas / places you compare I guess.
Bali is way more safe than Pattaya or Phuket IMO.

Lived 10 years in BKK (89-99) but I have no idea how it compares to Jakarta.
Thailand has a HUGE gun crime problem but 99% Thai to Thai. It has a worse gun death rate per capita than the US !
 
Probably depends which areas / places you compare I guess.
Bali is way more safe than Pattaya or Phuket IMO.

Lived 10 years in BKK (89-99) but I have no idea how it compares to Jakarta.
Thailand has a HUGE gun crime problem but 99% Thai to Thai. It has a worse gun death rate per capita than the US !
I didn't name names but of course Pattaya or Phuket will not be in the top for safest. Multiple reasons for that but anyone that lived in Thailand will know why. Lived in Chaing Mai but regularly visited BKK. I can only speak from personal experience and what little I read in the news while I was there against my experiences here and in other counties. Neve had anything stolen in any country I stayed in. Pick pocketed once and smash and grabbed in Jakarta the first year. Daylight in non seedy areas. Maybe I was just unlucky.
 
Glyphosate used in Roundup and other Monsanto weed-killing products is a known carcinogen. In 2018, Monsanto was ordered to pay a record $289 million to Mr. Dewayne Johnson, a groundskeeper in California, among 5000 other claimants, due to failing to warn consumers of the dangers of Glyphosate. Did you see warning notices in Depot Bangunan? I suspect not.
Indonesia is the dumping ground for all the pesticides , herbicides ,insecticides etc etc etc that are banned in most other countries . I own land where I grow watermelons and mandarins , I had to have a serious talk with the guy who works there about all this shit they use . The irrigation channels , creeks ,stream are choked with the empty bottles , bags . Lucily I draw water from a bore 160 feet down . They replace there mandarin trees every 6-8 years because they say there to old , it's not the age of the tree , friends in Australian have orchards with trees 30 -40 years old . It's all the pesticides , insecticides etc they use by the bucket full that are slowly killing all the trees and poisoning the ground . Round up is there go to for everything from weed killing to insect control . They have no idea about the contents and wouldn't give a shit if they did . They consider the environment a rubbish tip . Even the fisherman throw all there waste into the rivers or take it and dump it out to sea. The place is a festering cess pit . There all worried about Covid/Corona virus , some idiot has spread the word that smoke kills the virus , these idiots are burning anything and everything they can lay there hands on , green timber , painted timber , old wood from the mangroves that been laying in the festering rubbish for years in street fires and all sitting around them . Every second person has got a chest infection from the toxic smoke , coughing and spitting everywhere , no masks .
 

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