Thousands of Indonesian Students become Singaporean Citizen. Is it a brain drain ??

[pantaiema]

Why I Gave Up My Indonesian Citizenship to Become a Singaporean Citizen ?

Every year, around 1,000 Indonesian citizens move to become Singaporean citizens.
Based on this news, the Singaporean government also monitor talented Indonesian students and may award them scholarships to study in Singapore. Upon completing their studies, they are required to work for the Singaporean government and may later be offered the opportunity to become Singaporean citizens.

 

[Samoerai]

Talking about "Young Illiberal Progressives (YIPS)"

These young people, post-pandemische Gen Z generation, don't have the skills to debate, they don't have the skills to disagree and engage. Because they have not been educated, especially because they have not been to 'offline' university anymore and therefore have not learned to have those kinds of debates.

The Daily Mail writes that Channel 4 already conducted research last year which showed that these young people are less tolerant of the opinions of others than their parents or grandparents. They could therefore be called 'less liberal', the researchers write. They call this phenomenon 'the rise of the Young Illiberal Progressives' or 'Yips'. What annoys employers is 'unprofessional behavior'. Almost half of managers believe that these employees use far too many abbreviations or all kinds of buzzwords towards colleagues and customers.

Is this kind of behavior also visible in Indonesia? I know for a fact that particularly on Fridays, when apparently the boss / manager is not at the office, many workers leave the office early to go to the malls.

 

[MamangDudul]

Talking about "Young Illiberal Progressives (YIPS)"

These young people, post-pandemische Gen Z generation, don't have the skills to debate, they don't have the skills to disagree and engage. Because they have not been educated, especially because they have not been to 'offline' university anymore and therefore have not learned to have those kinds of debates.

The Daily Mail writes that Channel 4 already conducted research last year which showed that these young people are less tolerant of the opinions of others than their parents or grandparents. They could therefore be called 'less liberal', the researchers write. They call this phenomenon 'the rise of the Young Illiberal Progressives' or 'Yips'. What annoys employers is 'unprofessional behavior'. Almost half of managers believe that these employees use far too many abbreviations or all kinds of buzzwords towards colleagues and customers.

Is this kind of behavior also visible in Indonesia? I know for a fact that particularly on Fridays, when apparently the boss / manager is not at the office, many workers leave the office early to go to the malls.

It's indeed concerning and at least from my experience I would tend to believe it. During the pandemic (even before it already but the pandemic multiplied it) many people became more like what these articles describe. The youth or even younger people grew up in these times and naturally it will have a big influence on them.
Then again, Iam not surprised about it. They still think they are liberal and tolerant, but in reality only to what deserves to be in their liberal and tolerant world view. Actually being less liberal and tolerant is the new liberal. Or call it selective tolerance or whatever.

Sure, Indonesia always had its fair share of problems, but I would say the older generations were indeed more tolerant.

 

[pantaiema]

Is this kind of behavior also visible in Indonesia? I know for a fact that particularly on Fridays, when apparently the boss / manager is not at the office, many workers leave the office early to go to the malls.

If you are referring to a such lifestyle, Indonesian civil servants and employees of state-owned enterprises in Indonesia have long been associated with this way of life, dating back to previous generations. You would often observe some of them going to shopping malls or taking their wives to the market for daily shopping. It is like a sub culture among the civil servants. so it is difficult to change. However, it appears that this trend has started to reverse.

As per our previous discussion, it is very difficult for Indonesian civil servants and state-owned employees to be terminated from their positions, unless they have engaged in gross misconduct that has come to public attention.

 

[Samoerai]

If you are referring to a such lifestyle, Indonesian civil servants and employees of state-owned enterprises in Indonesia have long been associated with this way of life, dating back to previous generations. You would often observe some of them going to shopping malls or taking their wives to the market for daily shopping. It is like a sub culture among the civil servants. so it is difficult to change. However, it appears that this trend has started to reverse.

As per our previous discussion, it is very difficult for Indonesian civil servants and state-owned employees to be terminated from their positions, unless they have engaged in gross misconduct that has come to public attention.

Interesting.
Maybe "illiberal" in YIPS is a bit off in the formentioned article. Employers just should named them "unprofessional" .. Young Unprofessional Workers (YUW). But that doesn't sounds good.

 

[Bob]

Interesting.
Maybe "illiberal" in YIPS is a bit off in the formentioned article. Employers just should named them "unprofessional" .. Young Unprofessional Workers (YUW). But that doesn't sounds good.

Illiberal is accurate in that they aren't open to other views. It's not linked to professionalism.