Starlink Internet

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Does anyone have any experience with Starlink internet?

It seems to be available everywhere now, but the costs are high compared to Telkomsel plus you need to buy an expensive satellite dish too.
 
I have heard that it's been a boon in rural and remote Australia, mainly for large pastoral holdings.
 
Satellite dish setup is not that expensive though; for 4,8 juta you’re set.

I was thinking about it to take it with me to Bali etc. as alternative for the home solutions. It’s not a real alternative for Telkomsel, more for First Media etc.; you do need to set up the dish with an unobstructed view every time, etc.

I’m wondering what the Jelajah package -for RV etc.- would offer over the Residential package? Would you need it if you move around a lot?
 
On the latter; it seems the speed and prioritization of your connection is higher when you have the RV package and you’re on your ‘home address’. Not sure what the difference in practice would be.
 
My cousin has had one for 18 months out in the boonies of AZ. They really like the transfer speeds. Costs $110 a month, there.
 
People I know that have it in remote areas of the US are pretty happy with it. I wonder how much capacity is reserved for Indoneisa and how they are linking to the internet backbone here. Is there a ground station in Indoneisa or is it being back hauled on fiber to somewhere else?Is the governemt censoring it? If not too many people sign up it could be fine but if they oversell the capacity like most providers in Indoneisa do then it might be an issue in the future.

A lot of unawered questions since the service just here last week. I don't like being a paying to be a beta tester. With that being said, our internet service here is terrible and it doesn't matter too much which provider you go with. Starlink could possibly be an imrovement and the price for equipment and montly service is cheaper here than in the US. But after June 10th the equipment goes up to over 8 million unless they extened the promo.

I have kicked around the idea of changing but would hate to be unhappy after spending that much money and have to tuck my tail and reconnect with the old provider.
 
People I know that have it in remote areas of the US are pretty happy with it. I wonder how much capacity is reserved for Indoneisa and how they are linking to the internet backbone here. Is there a ground station in Indoneisa or is it being back hauled on fiber to somewhere else?Is the governemt censoring it? If not too many people sign up it could be fine but if they oversell the capacity like most providers in Indoneisa do then it might be an issue in the future.

A lot of unawered questions since the service just here last week. I don't like being a paying to be a beta tester. With that being said, our internet service here is terrible and it doesn't matter too much which provider you go with. Starlink could possibly be an imrovement and the price for equipment and montly service is cheaper here than in the US. But after June 10th the equipment goes up to over 8 million unless they extened the promo.

I have kicked around the idea of changing but would hate to be unhappy after spending that much money and have to tuck my tail and reconnect with the old provider.
Be aware, Starlink is a Elon Musk company! I believe? I like the idea, and think it would great for people far from town, or living in an R.V. On the road!
I just don't trust anything that man does! He is ultra Rich! and ultra Conservative! Some of the things quoted from him, seem to cater to the same type of people as Him. Trump for example!
But Starlink does sound nice, for people that need it. And yes, the censorship could be a problem!
 
Be aware, Starlink is a Elon Musk company! I believe? I like the idea, and think it would great for people far from town, or living in an R.V. On the road!
I just don't trust anything that man does! He is ultra Rich! and ultra Conservative! Some of the things quoted from him, seem to cater to the same type of people as Him. Trump for example!
But Starlink does sound nice, for people that need it. And yes, the censorship could be a problem!
Do you make a habit of not buying products from a company that has a CEO you don't agree with or like? How well do you investigate them before buying their products? You must have a lot of free time. Musk was a poster child for the left when they thought he leaned that way but now all of sudden is the devil when he gets a little conservative.
 
Since every company in the world is owned by I think 7 parent companies it's pointless

Hate Nazis but drive a Merc?

Those damn Chinks. Look at my iPhone

Russian oil
Etc etc
Hollywood paedophiles? Let's go bioskop watch a blockbuster.

Financial scams? Bitcoin. But look how much I made
 
Do you make a habit of not buying products from a company that has a CEO you don't agree with or like? How well do you investigate them before buying their products? You must have a lot of free time. Musk was a poster child for the left when they thought he leaned that way but now all of sudden is the devil when he gets a little conservative.
You fail to acknowledge, that I said Starlink is a great product! I wish it was cheaper, and available to all poor people, and to all nations! Yes he was admired by many in the beginning, but things he has said, does not sit well with me! I do admire his creativity. I am just paranoid of ultra conservatives! If you like him, great!
 
I'm considering starlink, will decide in 2 weeks; if Indihome or Myrepublic can't provide us with FO. Currently use Telkomsel Orbit with external antenna, still very slow, never more than 10 mbps - often drop to less 1 mbps.
 
Do you make a habit of not buying products from a company that has a CEO you don't agree with or like? How well do you investigate them before buying their products? You must have a lot of free time. Musk was a poster child for the left when they thought he leaned that way but now all of sudden is the devil when he gets a little conservative.
I do make a habit of not buying products from companies (and owners) that I don't agree with. A lot of people actually do!
 
Satellite dish setup is not that expensive though; for 4,8 juta you’re set.

I was thinking about it to take it with me to Bali etc. as alternative for the home solutions. It’s not a real alternative for Telkomsel, more for First Media etc.; you do need to set up the dish with an unobstructed view every time, etc.

I’m wondering what the Jelajah package -for RV etc.- would offer over the Residential package? Would you need it if you move around a lot?
I'm not sure if there have been any recent changes, but when Starlink first rolled out (Washington State, Parts of Alaska etc) there was a geofencing type lock on your dish. You could only move it within a pretty limited area of your sign-up location.

I heard that in Australia at least they have offered a nomad type option, primarily for grey nomads, but at least on launch I think that that option had bandwidth limitations.

I was waiting for many years for Starlink to be available in Indonesia and even visited their HQ in Hawthorne CA to discuss. But (as discussed in other messages Ha! Ha!) I now don't want to contribute in any way to a Musk company. So at my remote home I have invested in maximising the Telcomsel Orbit 4G connection (Collinear antennas on a tower etc) which now provides me Australian NBN typical speeds so in recent years I haven't followed any Starlink changes.

So before signing up for Starlink in another country or province or city and moving the terminal (dish) to your intended location it would be wise to check that this restriction of terminal movement is a thing of the past.
 
I'm not sure if there have been any recent changes, but when Starlink first rolled out (Washington State, Parts of Alaska etc) there was a geofencing type lock on your dish. You could only move it within a pretty limited area of your sign-up location.

I heard that in Australia at least they have offered a nomad type option, primarily for grey nomads, but at least on launch I think that that option had bandwidth limitations.

I was waiting for many years for Starlink to be available in Indonesia and even visited their HQ in Hawthorne CA to discuss. But (as discussed in other messages Ha! Ha!) I now don't want to contribute in any way to a Musk company. So at my remote home I have invested in maximising the Telcomsel 4G connection (antennas on a tower etc) which now provides me Australian NBN typical speeds so in recent years I haven't followed any Starlink changes.

So before signing up for Starlink in another country or province or city and moving the terminal (dish) to your intended location it would be wise to check this!
And how do you do that? In lay terms please.
 
If I see what is blocked by the local providers, which is very annoying and somewhat ridiculous, I would not be too concerned about another player.

And it is somewhat simplistic to equate a company with its CEO. I would then also be concerned with buying products (partially) made in China -which is almost everything- or cars assembled in Turkey or Vietnam, not to mention a Toyota.
 
I'm not sure if there have been any recent changes, but when Starlink first rolled out (Washington State, Parts of Alaska etc) there was a geofencing type lock on your dish. You could only move it within a pretty limited area of your sign-up location.

I heard that in Australia at least they have offered a nomad type option, primarily for grey nomads, but at least on launch I think that that option had bandwidth limitations.

I was waiting for many years for Starlink to be available in Indonesia and even visited their HQ in Hawthorne CA to discuss. But (as discussed in other messages Ha! Ha!) I now don't want to contribute in any way to a Musk company. So at my remote home I have invested in maximising the Telcomsel Orbit 4G connection (Collinear antennas on a tower etc) which now provides me Australian NBN typical speeds so in recent years I haven't followed any Starlink changes.

So before signing up for Starlink in another country or province or city and moving the terminal (dish) to your intended location it would be wise to check this!

And how do you do that? In lay terms please.
I'm down in Denpasar for a few days, at the end of the week when back home in Bangli I will do a write-up!
 
If I see what is blocked by the local providers, which is very annoying and somewhat ridiculous, I would not be too concerned about another player.
I'm curious about this (the blocking) as well - In fact it's why I signed up yesterday to the forum so I could ask this question...

For many years I would only bother to use a VPN when a website I wanted to use wouldn't be displayed. I'm not interested in viewing anything that Indonesia is targeting (porn, gambling etc) but pilot (aviation sites) wouldn't display images in forums etc - I guess because the image hosting site the url of the photo points to is on the block list.​
Lately, particularly this year using Telcomsel Orbit (4G) I find a massive amount of the internet is frustrating to use without a VPN continuously running - so now I just leave it on 24x7.​

I'm assuming that somehow Starlink is being required to use the same internet censorship required of other providers, and the use of the national DNS system. But considering Starlink is a global direct to and from satellite system how are SpaceX achieving the Indonesian requirement. I guess that all traffic on the system originating and being delivered is being routed via an earth station located in Indonesia?

This site shows the realtime locations of the StarLink satellites orbits above Indonesia, but from my reading it seems to closest StarLink earth station gateway to Indonesia is located in the Philippines.

https://satellitemap.space/

Unless there are some new earth stations that have been built in Indonesia (I can't find any info if some have been) it's interesting that Jakarta has allowed the systems gateway to the internet to be located in another sovereign country.
 
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I'm assuming that somehow Starlink is being required to use the same internet censorship required of other providers, and the use of the national DNS system. But considering Starlink is a global direct to and from satellite system how are SpaceX achieving the Indonesian requirement. I guess that all traffic on the system originating and being delivered is being routed via an earth station located in Indonesia?

This site shows the realtime locations of the StarLink satellites orbits above Indonesia, but from my reading it seems to closest StarLink earth station gateway to Indonesia is located in the Philippines.

https://satellitemap.space/

Unless there are some new earth stations that have been built in Indonesia (I can't find any info if some have been) it's interesting that Jakarta has allowed the systems gateway to the internet to be located in another sovereign country.
Starlink is required to route all their data through Indonesian IP addresses and subject to Indonesian censorship. That was a regular feature of news articles in April as their permissions were being finalized.

Starlink has actually been operating through TelkomSat for at least a year, but only available to businesses at a very high cost. They already have multiple ground stations in Indonesia. I have seen one in Kalimantan and one in Sulawesi appear on a map, and we can assume there is likely at least one in Java.
 

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