Helpful Herbert
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Be aware, Starlink is a Elon Musk company! I believe? I like the idea, and think it would great for people far from town, or living in an R.V. On the road!People I know that have it in remote areas of the US are pretty happy with it. I wonder how much capacity is reserved for Indoneisa and how they are linking to the internet backbone here. Is there a ground station in Indoneisa or is it being back hauled on fiber to somewhere else?Is the governemt censoring it? If not too many people sign up it could be fine but if they oversell the capacity like most providers in Indoneisa do then it might be an issue in the future.
A lot of unawered questions since the service just here last week. I don't like being a paying to be a beta tester. With that being said, our internet service here is terrible and it doesn't matter too much which provider you go with. Starlink could possibly be an imrovement and the price for equipment and montly service is cheaper here than in the US. But after June 10th the equipment goes up to over 8 million unless they extened the promo.
I have kicked around the idea of changing but would hate to be unhappy after spending that much money and have to tuck my tail and reconnect with the old provider.
Do you make a habit of not buying products from a company that has a CEO you don't agree with or like? How well do you investigate them before buying their products? You must have a lot of free time. Musk was a poster child for the left when they thought he leaned that way but now all of sudden is the devil when he gets a little conservative.Be aware, Starlink is a Elon Musk company! I believe? I like the idea, and think it would great for people far from town, or living in an R.V. On the road!
I just don't trust anything that man does! He is ultra Rich! and ultra Conservative! Some of the things quoted from him, seem to cater to the same type of people as Him. Trump for example!
But Starlink does sound nice, for people that need it. And yes, the censorship could be a problem!
You fail to acknowledge, that I said Starlink is a great product! I wish it was cheaper, and available to all poor people, and to all nations! Yes he was admired by many in the beginning, but things he has said, does not sit well with me! I do admire his creativity. I am just paranoid of ultra conservatives! If you like him, great!Do you make a habit of not buying products from a company that has a CEO you don't agree with or like? How well do you investigate them before buying their products? You must have a lot of free time. Musk was a poster child for the left when they thought he leaned that way but now all of sudden is the devil when he gets a little conservative.
I do make a habit of not buying products from companies (and owners) that I don't agree with. A lot of people actually do!Do you make a habit of not buying products from a company that has a CEO you don't agree with or like? How well do you investigate them before buying their products? You must have a lot of free time. Musk was a poster child for the left when they thought he leaned that way but now all of sudden is the devil when he gets a little conservative.
I'm not sure if there have been any recent changes, but when Starlink first rolled out (Washington State, Parts of Alaska etc) there was a geofencing type lock on your dish. You could only move it within a pretty limited area of your sign-up location.Satellite dish setup is not that expensive though; for 4,8 juta you’re set.
I was thinking about it to take it with me to Bali etc. as alternative for the home solutions. It’s not a real alternative for Telkomsel, more for First Media etc.; you do need to set up the dish with an unobstructed view every time, etc.
I’m wondering what the Jelajah package -for RV etc.- would offer over the Residential package? Would you need it if you move around a lot?
And how do you do that? In lay terms please.I'm not sure if there have been any recent changes, but when Starlink first rolled out (Washington State, Parts of Alaska etc) there was a geofencing type lock on your dish. You could only move it within a pretty limited area of your sign-up location.
I heard that in Australia at least they have offered a nomad type option, primarily for grey nomads, but at least on launch I think that that option had bandwidth limitations.
I was waiting for many years for Starlink to be available in Indonesia and even visited their HQ in Hawthorne CA to discuss. But (as discussed in other messages Ha! Ha!) I now don't want to contribute in any way to a Musk company. So at my remote home I have invested in maximising the Telcomsel 4G connection (antennas on a tower etc) which now provides me Australian NBN typical speeds so in recent years I haven't followed any Starlink changes.
So before signing up for Starlink in another country or province or city and moving the terminal (dish) to your intended location it would be wise to check this!
I'm not sure if there have been any recent changes, but when Starlink first rolled out (Washington State, Parts of Alaska etc) there was a geofencing type lock on your dish. You could only move it within a pretty limited area of your sign-up location.
I heard that in Australia at least they have offered a nomad type option, primarily for grey nomads, but at least on launch I think that that option had bandwidth limitations.
I was waiting for many years for Starlink to be available in Indonesia and even visited their HQ in Hawthorne CA to discuss. But (as discussed in other messages Ha! Ha!) I now don't want to contribute in any way to a Musk company. So at my remote home I have invested in maximising the Telcomsel Orbit 4G connection (Collinear antennas on a tower etc) which now provides me Australian NBN typical speeds so in recent years I haven't followed any Starlink changes.
So before signing up for Starlink in another country or province or city and moving the terminal (dish) to your intended location it would be wise to check this!
I'm down in Denpasar for a few days, at the end of the week when back home in Bangli I will do a write-up!And how do you do that? In lay terms please.
I'm curious about this (the blocking) as well - In fact it's why I signed up yesterday to the forum so I could ask this question...If I see what is blocked by the local providers, which is very annoying and somewhat ridiculous, I would not be too concerned about another player.
Starlink is required to route all their data through Indonesian IP addresses and subject to Indonesian censorship. That was a regular feature of news articles in April as their permissions were being finalized.I'm assuming that somehow Starlink is being required to use the same internet censorship required of other providers, and the use of the national DNS system. But considering Starlink is a global direct to and from satellite system how are SpaceX achieving the Indonesian requirement. I guess that all traffic on the system originating and being delivered is being routed via an earth station located in Indonesia?
This site shows the realtime locations of the StarLink satellites orbits above Indonesia, but from my reading it seems to closest StarLink earth station gateway to Indonesia is located in the Philippines.
https://satellitemap.space/
Unless there are some new earth stations that have been built in Indonesia (I can't find any info if some have been) it's interesting that Jakarta has allowed the systems gateway to the internet to be located in another sovereign country.