- Oct 12, 2016
Why does a Catholic Asian News organization even need to exist? I think ill give that one a pass when searching for my news in Asia.
A lot of the issues in the world nowadays stem from people NOT being critical of the source of their news. We live in the age of spin.There are over 1.2 billion Catholics around the world, and perhaps they're entitled to read from a source that isn't filtered through an anti-Catholic perspective? But, yeah, you're certainly free to ignore them if you'd like.
Thanks for the reply Helpful Herbert.
Classic internet forum replies: 1 clear response for every 2 criticisms of the source.
A lot of the issues in the world nowadays stem from people NOT being critical of the source of their news. We live in the age of spin.
I'm Irish, so very well versed in the horrific abuses of the catholic church/ associated catholic organizations. Wouldn't trust them as far as i can throw them.
Get your news from where you like but balance it with the understand of what spin the journalist/ editor/ news org is putting it through please!
Anyway - I thought that the islamic parties get a very small % of the popular vote here? I'm in now way an expert in local politics but I was surprised when I looked this up a few years ago.
Having faith in a religion and belief in an afterlife is obviously sustaining for billions of people around the world but it seems at the far end of most formal religions are extremely intolerant views that hardly service the notion of compassion and love for one's fellow humans.
As for Catholicism, quite apart from recent revelations about corruption at the highest levels of the Vatican and the staggering world wide revelations about abuse of minors across many decades I find it hard to think of the Catholic church without reflecting on the influence of the Vatican in stamping out notions of birth control around the world and continuing these policies despite the obvious over population of the world with all the associated problems.
As for the John Lennon/ Yoko Ono dream "imagine... that there was no more religion" I am afraid that is just a dream. Even in "secular" countries religious groups are always working hard to push for laws that conform to their notions of how to live. Still, I agree with attempts to diminish the influence of religious organizations on governments.
The last witch burned by the Church was in 1722. The last witch in the world was executed in 2020.
Despite the atrocities of the Church-before, today, you make, in this case, the legitimate victim-religious minorities guilty for exercising their faith and rightfully complaining about oppression, and no, they are not oppressed in Starbucks. This is called "blame the victim", same as a provocatively dressed woman that is raped and accused of "provocation".
I am no catholic nor Christian, and I consider secularism as a good thing, for the record.
I do not need a Catholic magazine to point me on a fact that I can see every day in Indonesian MSM, even anecdotally in my neighbourhood
I do not remember when the last time Evangelical rednecks burned/demolished sacral buildings of other faiths on a systemic scale, throwing faeces on people congregating, demolishing synagogues and suppressing religious liberties. It is a false equivalency and relativisation. The last witch burned by the Church was in 1722. The last witch in the world was executed in 2020, but luckily not in Indonesia.
I do not need a Catholic magazine to point me on a fact that I can see every day in Indonesian MSM, even anecdotally in my neighbourhood. I suppose you are not for a long time in Indonesia, but the country is exposed to 20-year Salafist indoctrination paid by Saudi Arabia and that is taking a toll. It will need decades and generations to back the country in normal, if ever. I interpret the latest Government suppression of civil liberties as the last weapon to keep the country under control, while citizens will pay the price.
And as you called first the T-word, Trump is the most peaceful president from Woodrow Wilson, like it or not. He did not start any war (cynics would say -except the II US Civil War). I suggest keeping that subject in the Trump section.
I am curious, why should the OP "stay out of this subject" because you live in "Trump country"? Donald Trump is the duly elected President of the USA so in my opinion the whole of the USA is "Trump country".You’ll get no argument from me about the problem with church burnings and other violence perpetrated by radicalized Muslims in Indonesia, it happens and it’s indefensible. I am not saying that the problem doesn’t exist, nobody here is saying it either. The issue is the news source; there’s plenty of credible sources other than a self-proclaimed Catholic news network.
I have crossed swords with Islamic fundamentalists all the way since high school, and I read Indonesian sources without Google translate, so I don’t need your lecture about the subject. I actually provided an Indonesian source that puts the topic statement in context. The Tempo article is far more detailed and better written than the linked UCA News piece.
Trump is the most peaceful president? I suppose you can say that. He unilaterally withdrew US troops from Syria and probably caused additional tens of thousands of to die from attacks by either Turkey or Russian-backed Assad. He wants to withdraw from Afghanistan without any concrete plan, basically allowing the Taliban to move in again. We know how ‘peaceful’ that was the last time around.
President Trump's reelection bid received a vote of support Friday from an entity most in his party would reject: the Taliban.www.cbsnews.com
Let’s praise Neville Chamberlain for being peaceful while we’re at it.
I live in Trump country and deal with Trump supporters on a daily basis, I suggest you stay out of this subject.
He said that I should not talk about Trump on this thread, as he thinks I lack the knowledge about the guy. He was trying to prove his superior handle on Trump by pointing out that Donald is the most peaceful U.S. president in a while. I’m simply returning the favor.I am curious, why should the OP "stay out of this subject" because you live in "Trump country"? Donald Trump is the duly elected President of the USA so in my opinion the whole of the USA is "Trump country".