Request to remove my name from the black list

ChrisTex

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So it's my first time of black listing so it's temporarily blacklist?

No, you are black listed until further notice. Here is a quick summary of what is going to happen.

They say you have to WAIT 6 MONTHS BEFORE APPLYING TO BE REMOVED FROM THE BLACKLIST. So in your case, the earliest is late Jan/early Feb 2023.

Someone has to go to the immigration office in person and appeal you being blacklisted. You said your ex wife who is about to be your wife again will do this. She has to have a valid reason for you to be removed from the blacklist. Going from wife to ex wife to wife again, probably isn't going to cut it.

After the appeal, there is no promise you will be taken off the blacklist.
 

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No, you are black listed until further notice. Here is a quick summary of what is going to happen.

They say you have to WAIT 6 MONTHS BEFORE APPLYING TO BE REMOVED FROM THE BLACKLIST. So in your case, the earliest is late Jan/early Feb 2023.

Someone has to go to the immigration office in person and appeal you being blacklisted. You said your ex wife who is about to be your wife again will do this. She has to have a valid reason for you to be removed from the blacklist. Going from wife to ex wife to wife again, probably isn't going to cut it.

After the appeal, there is no promise you will be taken off the blacklistex wife s
 

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It doesn't matter if I am going to remarry again or no .. the law say the temporary black list is 6 months and a frnd or relative can apply to remove that's it .. and nobody have a clear answer about the black list .. a blacklisted person pass the border and he the officer let him in !!!!
People have made it clear that the blacklist CAN be lifted after 6 months if someone asks. That doesn't mean it HAS to lifted at that point. You are at the mercy of Immigration and whatever mood they happen to be in on the day someone talks to them.
 

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Yes u r right .. so it depends on her and them and how she talks and explain that's it simple
It will depend on her disposition, how and what she as the reasonings for your name to be removed from the Black List, and then it is totally up to Immigration officers who review the request.

There is no guarantee for which way it is decided. The 6 months is only a minimum and can in fact be as long as permanent. There is no such thing as a temporary Black List. Only a Black List until someone request the name is removed. Then, maybe yes, maybe no.

Just because someone somewhere got in while still being on a Black List should not be encouragement for someone else to try it. A lot more do not succeed.

I can honestly say that if your wife to be goes in with an argumentive attitude like you are presenting here even with people that are trying to assist you, your name will never be removed. Also, this is an open Forum and I would not be surprised if there were individuals from the various branches of the government popping in from time to time to see what is going on. (I know some have) Your attitude here could sway your case towards the negative if your postings are seen.

You were Black Listed for not following the law. Having your name removed by doing anything besides following the current regulation will definitely be taken as unfavorable towards your case.
 

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It doesn't matter if I am going to remarry again or no .. the law say the temporary black list is 6 months and a frnd or relative can apply to remove that's it .. and nobody have a clear answer about the black list .. a blacklisted person pass the border and he the officer let him in !!!!

Yes it will matter. You are basically having to argue your case ON WHY YOU SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO REENTER Indonesia. They are not going to let you come back because you want to want to visit somewhere or you miss the food. You have to have a legit reason on why you should be allowed back in.

For the upteenth time in this thread, just because something says after 6 months you can appeal, it does not make it 100% guarenteed that it will be lifted. If you go back and reread what everyone has posted. Everyone has been clear and upfront with you on this. So once again, whoever goes and speaks on your behalf and yes it will matter who this person is, they have to give clear evidence that you should be allowed to reenter Indonesia. Again, it has to be a legit reason and not because you like to come over here on holiday.

As far as the mentioning of someone who was blacklisted and being allowed in, none of us know anything to back it up. This is the first time I have heard anyone who is blacklisted being allowed to enter any country at any legal border crossing(land, air, or sea point of entry).
 

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If you want to increase your chances of your approval request being granted, it would help if the request is coming from your current wife and not your ex-wife who you want to remarry. If you are really committed to the woman and to living in Indonesia, she should leave Indonesia in the interim to marry you, perhaps in your home country.
 

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It will depend on her disposition, how and what she as the reasonings for your name to be removed from the Black List, and then it is totally up to Immigration officers who review the request.

There is no guarantee for which way it is decided. The 6 months is only a minimum and can in fact be as long as permanent. There is no such thing as a temporary Black List. Only a Black List until someone request the name is removed. Then, maybe yes, maybe no.

Just because someone somewhere got in while still being on a Black List should not be encouragement for someone else to try it. A lot more do not succeed.

I can honestly say that if your wife to be goes in with an argumentive attitude like you are presenting here even with people that are trying to assist you, your name will never be removed. Also, this is an open Forum and I would not be surprised if there were individuals from the various branches of the government popping in from time to time to see what is going on. (I know some have) Your attitude here could sway your case towards the negative if your postings are seen.

You were Black Listed for not following the law. Having your name removed by doing anything besides following the current regulation will definitely be taken as unfavorable towards your case.
So all I have to do just send her to immigration to request that and talk the truth that I wana come BK to marry and see what's happen
 

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I am really so sorry for any bad words from me I just feel bad about this and unfair too since after I got divorced I bought a tikt to bk home then I had a transit in India but I supposed to have a transit visa if I wnaa.transit in India but I didn't have it so they didn't let me continue my flight to home but they offer me to come BK again jkt where I came from so I told my ex I lost all my money on that tikt so let me stay with u till I see what I can do to come BK home... Then I tried to convince her to come BK with her again so I did my best to find a job even with visa on arrival then I can take the salary to marry her and make new kitas again but someone report in the immigration that I work then they come and was deported.. I couldn't have any choice except working to marry her again or even to come BK home.. that's why I felt it's unfair
 

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I am really so sorry for any bad words from me I just feel bad about this and unfair too since after I got divorced I bought a tikt to bk home then I had a transit in India but I supposed to have a transit visa if I wnaa.transit in India but I didn't have it so they didn't let me continue my flight to home but they offer me to come BK again jkt where I came from so I told my ex I lost all my money on that tikt so let me stay with u till I see what I can do to come BK home... Then I tried to convince her to come BK with her again so I did my best to find a job even with visa on arrival then I can take the salary to marry her and make new kitas again but someone report in the immigration that I work then they come and was deported.. I couldn't have any choice except working to marry her again or even to come BK home.. that's why I felt it's unfair
And I know I am saving to come BK and marry her again and open a bisnis ..
 

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And I know I am saving to come BK and marry her again and open a bisnis ..
We humans not robots so there is some cases that we better understand the whole situation and know the details behind...
 

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We humans not robots so there is some cases that we better understand the whole situation and know the details behind...
I know it's a mistake but what should I do I lost my tikt which around 9 jta and nobody agreed to help So I couldn't buy a new tikt .. so air Asia offerd to make me come BK to jkt coz I couldn't go India for transit.. so my intention was to come BK with my ex so I was searching for a job as a prove that I am able to Marry again So I was so happy for that but immigrasi come and deport me.. I was about to make a new kitas ..I never broke any rules in India during my 4 yrs marrige there
 

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I know it's a mistake but what should I do I lost my tikt which around 9 jta and nobody agreed to help So I couldn't buy a new tikt .. so air Asia offerd to make me come BK to jkt coz I couldn't go India for transit.. so my intention was to come BK with my ex so I was searching for a job as a prove that I am able to Marry again So I was so happy for that but immigrasi come and deport me.. I was about to make a new kitas ..I never broke any rules in India during my 4 yrs marrige there
But u know sometimes u don't have options
 

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Off course if she told the immigration all that story am sure they will understand the situation since we humans
 

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And also I check here with the consultant embassey of Indo .. the officer took my passport and check in the system ( that they issue the visa ) he found my data on the system but there isnt any info that I am black listed.. he was confused so he took another passport for a different person to compare between him and mine and the result was the same like the other guy ?! So how can I be sure if I am black listed however I have red stamp in my passport of deportation
 

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Save your story for Immigration

As entertaining as it is for us, none of us can help you with your case except explain what is the process.

You are blacklisted. Someone here has to physically apply and request to have you removed. For a good reason.

Otherwise you stay on the list indefinitely.

And honestly, your reasons (and attitude) don't really lead me to believe you will be successful.

Sorry
 

Mohab

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If I am black listed it supposed to be shown on the system from which they issue the indo visa right ?
 

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Save your story for Immigration

As entertaining as it is for us, none of us can help you with your case except explain what is the process.

You are blacklisted. Someone here has to physically apply and request to have you removed. For a good reason.

Otherwise you stay on the list indefinitely.

And honestly, your reasons (and attitude) don't really lead me to believe you will be successful.

Sorry
My ex will do the process no worries
 

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