New vs Used Car Buying Experience

WhyMe

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Hi Guys,

I am planning to buy a car in Indonesia after 6 years and would like to know if its a good idea to buy a new one or a used car? I am slowly leaning towards buying a used car as i see the pricing depreciate pretty quickly within the first year based on the OLX and other sites data.

Would love to hear about your experiences and also recommendations on where to buy from and which brands to go for? Personally i like Xpander Cross and Wuling Almaz but not sure about resale value after a couple of years.
 
Used cars are generally overpriced in Indonesia. There are a few models that depriciate quickly but a main stream Honda or Toyota holds it's value exteremely well. Our Honda BRV only depreciated around 15% in 6 years which is proof enough that the used market is overpriced. Cars are always going to depreciate but you can control that somewhat according to the model you buy. The Wuling will depreiate much quicker but that still doesn't make a used one a good buy.
 
Toyota is the one with the better durability-services-price compared to the others. There is a good used car in Mobil88 (under Astra International holdings) at a price higher than the market, but the best quality in a used car and not as much as the newer one.

remember, the new car always drops 30% in the first year. Unless you buy a new car but an older one from the dealer. then it will be a different discussion.

for EV go for BYD
 
remember, the new car always drops 30% in the first year. Unless you buy a new car but an older one from the dealer. then it will be a different discussion.
Not true in Indonesia. A popular model doesn't even depricaite that much in 5-7 years. Ours has depreciated only 15% in 6 years.
 
Thanks for sharing this and I am leaning more towards Xpander Cross 2024 due to the discount being offered. Also keeping Wuling Almaz RS in the list since they are having a buy back offer with 70% after three years.

Toyota Veloz seems to be a good option but i really don't like the interior of toyota cars and feels very outdated when compared to others.

@Hawk256 Honda BRV, whats the fuel consumption like? Is it the newer model or 2023 one?
 
Thanks for sharing this and I am leaning more towards Xpander Cross 2024 due to the discount being offered. Also keeping Wuling Almaz RS in the list since they are having a buy back offer with 70% after three years.

Toyota Veloz seems to be a good option but i really don't like the interior of toyota cars and feels very outdated when compared to others.

@Hawk256 Honda BRV, whats the fuel consumption like? Is it the newer model or 2023 one?
2018. I'm not sure what the listed fuel consumption is but I see 15+ kmpl on long trips but it will drop down to 10 or 12 kmpl in Central Jakarta. Seems very fair on fuel for the power and comfort that it has. It's no Mercedes but it's not a go cart either. Good compromise and can still carry 7 if needed.
 
I consulted with several professional drivers before buying a car here, the general consensus was buy Toyota because it is cheap and easy for service, upkeep and spare parts and will probably go on forever.
I guess it all boils down to personal choice and budget. I have no interest in modern cars they all look much the same, I have little interest in the interior as for me it is a tool to get me from A- B, hopefully safely. So, I just go with the practical reasons.
 
Indeed, everybody has their own preference and reasons which can be unlogic for others.
I was Peugeot fans, who believed Peugeot is the most reliable and comfortable car to drive with "reasonable" cost. My previous car before left Indonesia in 2004 was Peugeot 504, 405, 306 and 406. Back to Indonesia, initially looked for medium size SUV PHEV with good power and acceleration, comfortable to drive, spacious enough for 4 with ADAS (getting old, so need more safety assistance) then at the end bought Cherry Tiggo 8 Pro, a brand that 20 years ago which I mocked like a tin can. 10 months experiences, no problem driving from Jakarta to Bali, very powerful 250 HP, 390 NM torque, easily over take Pajero sport or Fortuner, full functional ADAS but a bit annoying in Indonesian traffic and not very happy with the FCW sensors, seem too sensitive or bugs in the software. Average fuel consumption for long drive Jakarta Bali is 12 km/l but daily drive here in Bali, 9km/l. Free service up to 60,000 or 4 years, and 6 years warranty - as always term and condition apply. So far, spend for fuel only.
 
I am learning a lot and wanted to know if its true that electric cars don't have the odd even number plate thing applied in Jakarta? I have not heard about it before but one of the Sales lady from Wuling shared that e-vehciles can go without any restriction of odd numbers within Jakarta.

Also does anyone know from where can i see this odd number regulation and which days of the week are assigned to which numbers. thanks
 
I am learning a lot and wanted to know if its true that electric cars don't have the odd even number plate thing applied in Jakarta? I have not heard about it before but one of the Sales lady from Wuling shared that e-vehciles can go without any restriction of odd numbers within Jakarta.

Also does anyone know from where can i see this odd number regulation and which days of the week are assigned to which numbers. thanks
Odd Even is pretty simple:
if it is an odd numbered day of the week it is an Odd day example 7th of Jan= odd, 12th of Jan even.
I believe there are just parts of the day and certain roads that are affected.
It used to be from 6 am to 10 am and then 4 to 10 pm.
The affected roads I do not know as they expanded them but I would assume main arterial routes through the city - but I am pretty sure it is not the toll roads (and now waiting for someone to tell me they did the toll roads too hahaha)
 
Odd Even is pretty simple:
if it is an odd numbered day of the week it is an Odd day example 7th of Jan= odd, 12th of Jan even.
I believe there are just parts of the day and certain roads that are affected.
It used to be from 6 am to 10 am and then 4 to 10 pm.
The affected roads I do not know as they expanded them but I would assume main arterial routes through the city - but I am pretty sure it is not the toll roads (and now waiting for someone to tell me they did the toll roads too hahaha)
It's not the toll roads but trying to figure out which roads are included in almost impossible for a foreigner but seems second nature to a native. My wife just seems to know and if ask where the documentation is, she has no idea. If it were up to me having to drive I would just get one of the order spikes and collect the tickets as I went about my day.
 
It is pretty clear which roads are affected by odd and even because there is a big sign post explaining the rules before you go on to that road.
As for toll roads they are not affected themselves but quite possibly the roads leading up to the toll roads would be, so you wouldn't be able to use them.
I have heard electric vehicles are not included but I have no idea how the policeman stopping the cars which have the wrong plate would know what is an EV and what isn't, unless he has a good knowledge of the subject. And what about a hybrid car which has both electric and petrol engines?
 
It is pretty clear which roads are affected by odd and even because there is a big sign post explaining the rules before you go on to that road.
As for toll roads they are not affected themselves but quite possibly the roads leading up to the toll roads would be, so you wouldn't be able to use them.
I have heard electric vehicles are not included but I have no idea how the policeman stopping the cars which have the wrong plate would know what is an EV and what isn't, unless he has a good knowledge of the subject. And what about a hybrid car which has both electric and petrol engines?
Not difficult to identify, EV license plate has blue line, and most (if not all) EV does not have radiator grill.
 
It is pretty clear which roads are affected by odd and even because there is a big sign post explaining the rules before you go on to that road
I disagree with this 100%. I have never seen a sign at all on any of the routes and they certainly don't post them at every intersection with that road. Hundreds of places to turn onto a road. Where is the list or documentation as to what roads are included? No one has been able to show me so far.
 
I disagree with this 100%. I have never seen a sign at all on any of the routes and they certainly don't post them at every intersection with that road. Hundreds of places to turn onto a road. Where is the list or documentation as to what roads are included? No one has been able to show me so far.
I'm not sure where you are based but here in Jakarta there are signs on almost every intersection leading to a road covered by odd and even. To find the roads affected just type ganjil genap into google, and there are plenty of maps showing it.
I remember during covid it was very confusing in Bogor because they kept changing the rules all the time and would randomly put up roadblocks. However I don't think they use odd even anymore there.
 
I'm not sure where you are based but here in Jakarta there are signs on almost every intersection leading to a road covered by odd and even. To find the roads affected just type ganjil genap into google, and there are plenty of maps showing it.
I remember during covid it was very confusing in Bogor because they kept changing the rules all the time and would randomly put up roadblocks. However I don't think they use odd even anymore there.
Are these signs in the room with you now? But seriously I am talking about Jakarta and have honestly never seen a sign nor has my wife pointed one out to me when I asked how to know which roads to use or not. I also know that my wife was ticketed one time by relying on Google Maps to determine which roads to use. The policeman explained to her that Google was not the police. So I'm not sure if trusing Google is the best idea either. I stay out of central unless it's abosulety necessary but have had a few instances of having to drive a long way in the wrong direction. Can't imagine having to navigate it daily.
 
I have never seen any sign regarding odd even number plates in Sudirman area and according to my last driver there is no app or sign anywhere on the road. Its mostly through local news through which they get to know about new regulation and traffic rules.
 
use your google map, set to odd or even
 
use your google map, set to odd or even
Yes, this is even easier than googling the ganjil genap map.
The roads I use that definitely have ganjil genap are:
Sudirman, Thamrin, Rasuna Said, Gatot Subroto, mt haryono.
I thought that Casablanca might have it, but actually it doesn't.
 

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