Need Attorney for Child Abduction

[Jiggy89]

I'm American. I married my Indonesian wife 14 years ago. (Muslim ceremony, green book, the full monty). Been living in the USA for 11 years. 2 boys. I filed for divorce 6 months ago. Court order for kids not to leave California. Two weeks ago I was at a concert with our oldest son and the wife took off with, abducted, our youngest and went to Jakarta. I have talked with them so I know they are safe. Any recommendations for an attorney over there? Have written the Embassy and State Department, waiting to hear back.

Thanks

 

[Shadrach]

I'm American. I married my Indonesian wife 14 years ago. (Muslim ceremony, green book, the full monty). Been living in the USA for 11 years. 2 boys. I filed for divorce 6 months ago. Court order for kids not to leave California. Two weeks ago I was at a concert with our oldest son and the wife took off with, abducted, our youngest and went to Jakarta. I have talked with them so I know they are safe. Any recommendations for an attorney over there? Have written the Embassy and State Department, waiting to hear back.

Thanks

If you had a court order for them not to able to leave California, then how did they get through Customs?

 

[Jiggy89]

US Customs and Immigration does not typically block passports for exiting the United States. Child also had Indonesian Passport as well as US Passport.

 

[Hawk256]

Indonesia is not a party to The Hague Convention which will make it hard for any cooperation of law enforcement on child abduction. The only reason I know this is that my ex used the fact that I lived in Indonesia against me in the custody hearing. The court seems to take The Hague Convention very seriously and it definetly worked against me. Wish I had some better news for you.

 

[Balifrog]

Sad when things end up like that.

 

[Jiggy89]

I heard back from the Embassy, unfortunately looks like it's going to be tough to get the child back.

 

[harryopal1]

You might spend a fortune on legal fees without a positive result. The courts here are known to favour locals in disputes with bule so perhaps better to keep the money, and as difficult as it may be, work at just developing a friendly relationship with the wife so that later you can use the saved money to visit.

 

[Jiggy89]

I have come to realize this. Thanks!

 

[Jiggy89]

My current strategy involves withholding any financial assistance until I regain custody of my son. She has sufficient savings, and it is interesting to observe the change in spending behavior when individuals are using their own funds.

 

[Shadrach]

My current strategy involves withholding any financial assistance until I regain custody of my son. She has sufficient savings, and it is interesting to observe the change in spending behavior when individuals are using their own funds.

Hey in this situation, You are just going to have to bite the bullet, and let the water flow! I lost a child when the mother found Jesus, and decided she wanted full control of our child, and just took off, without a trace! All the Good Christians decided to help her and snub me about her whereabouts! I was told she married a man from Canada and left no forwarding address.
I had two children from a previous relationship, so I had to focus on taking care of them.
16 years later, my kids asked around and told the Christian community they wanted to find their Half Sister. They got her info, and went to see her, at a Christian college far away. They had a good meeting, and told her about me, the Real Dad, and brought her to meet me for the first time in 16 years. We started a whole new relationship, without the Mother! I asked her what she wanted in life, and she wanted to become a Nurse, so I payed for her Nursing education, and have been Dad ever since! She had a Daughter, so now I have another Grandchild!
Anyway, back to you. Good Luck with this situation. It will be a battle, in the mother's favor! I hope you don't have to wait like I did, to know your Child!

 

[pantaiema]

My current strategy involves withholding any financial assistance until I regain custody of my son. She has sufficient savings, and it is interesting to observe the change in spending behavior when individuals are using their own funds.

Alternatively, if the mother insist the son to stay in Indonesia, you could also help to finance your son for relatively good education and his development need until he reaches adulthood and could stand up on his own feet. The education in Indonesia even in private schools is relatively cheap compared to education in developed countries. Also the son still have three years grace period to choose on his own whether he wants to keep his Indonesian Nationality or to become a US citizen after reaching the age of 18yo.

To avoid the financial help to be misused by the mother, find a way to pay the tuition fees directly to the school.

In the parent dispute, the children will always be the victim.

 

[pantaiema]

Hey in this situation, You are just going to have to bite the bullet, and let the water flow! I lost a child when the mother found Jesus, and decided she wanted full control of our child, and just took off, without a trace! All the Good Christians decided to help her and snub me about her whereabouts! I was told she married a man from Canada and left no forwarding address.
I had two children from a previous relationship, so I had to focus on taking care of them.
16 years later, my kids asked around and told the Christian community they wanted to find their Half Sister. They got her info, and went to see her, at a Christian college far away. They had a good meeting, and told her about me, the Real Dad, and brought her to meet me for the first time in 16 years. We started a whole new relationship, without the Mother! I asked her what she wanted in life, and she wanted to become a Nurse, so I payed for her Nursing education, and have been Dad ever since! She had a Daughter, so now I have another Grandchild!
Anyway, back to you. Good Luck with this situation. It will be a battle, in the mother's favor! I hope you don't have to wait like I did, to know your Child!

Very Good to know that you could become a good dad. I thought you only focus on environment, plastic rubbish, toxic plastic burning

 

[Helpful Herbert]

My current strategy involves withholding any financial assistance until I regain custody of my son. She has sufficient savings, and it is interesting to observe the change in spending behavior when individuals are using their own funds.

I might be making assumptions here, but perhaps she is already searching for another foreigner to fund her lifestyle...
I have to say it is pretty cruel of her to split up siblings like that. Although I guess these days they can stay in contact electronically.

 

[Jiggy89]

she is already searching for another foreigner to fund her lifestyle...

I'm sure!

 

[Balifrog]

I know I will have some thumbs down for this, but Asian women however nice and sweet they can be, they can switch to absolute evil in a nanosecond.
My ex Thai wife at 45 and with 3 kids got a relationship with a 25 y old Thai and ended up falling in love. Absolute stupidity..
I warned her 3 times and then cut her off financially. Kids were teenagers so I funded them directly.
He cut her off when he was tired playing with her.
Nowadays kids all gave a good job, ex and me are regulary in touch, but she know she lost it all...
And me I simply switched back to bachelor mode for years, till I decided to settle down with my actual companion.
After all, the ex f*cking it up was a good decision. I have a younger one now...
No need to complicate life ! Take it easy and be happy !

 

[Shadrach]

People are Really, No Better than Just a Bunch of Crotch Sniffing Dogs!

 

[Balifrog]

People are Really, No Better than Just a Bunch of Crotch Sniffing Dogs!

Dogs are happy...they can do it on the beach without zome zealous idiot finds it shocking !

 

[Shadrach]

So True!