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Move to Bali

colroe

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I live in Medan but finding it more and more not my cup cup of tea for various social and in-law reasons. What do members think? Medan is cheaper to live I have heard, but I really need a change of location. Has anybody else moved from Medan or other distant parts to Bali. Any pitfalls?
 

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Your wife being on the phone with her mother every 10 minutes?

But seriously; don’t forget that BALI is much more touristic (except for lake Toba perhaps). That has also a bit as consequence you will never be accepted as local and often be seen as occasional tourist. (I don’t pretend we will ever be fully integrated and accepted as ‘local’ but there are gradients.)

On the flip side: Less staring and “Hello Mister” too.

If your spouse doesn’t own land (and a house), it could be a bit more complicated for her to get her/his KTP adjusted and sponsor you on Bali.

Generally speaking, Bali is probably more expensive.
 

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There is Bali and then there is Bali. Depending on what you like doing. Kuta and Denpasar are not very attractive... or at least not to me. Kuta for the overwhelming impact of raucous tourists and Denpasar for the horrendous traffic and the feeling that you are trapped in a stew of pollution. But there are many other parts of Bali that are quieter and not so unattractive. Bali may be dearer but again it depends on what you need for your life style. With some of the extremist stuff going on in Java, Bali feels safer. As is often suggested to people making enquiries maybe visit and allow enough time to get a feel for different areas.
 

colroe

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There is Bali and then there is Bali. Depending on what you like doing. Kuta and Denpasar are not very attractive... or at least not to me. Kuta for the overwhelming impact of raucous tourists and Denpasar for the horrendous traffic and the feeling that you are trapped in a stew of pollution. But there are many other parts of Bali that are quieter and not so unattractive. Bali may be dearer but again it depends on what you need for your life style. With some of the extremist stuff going on in Java, Bali feels safer. As is often suggested to people making enquiries maybe visit and allow enough time to get a feel for different areas.
I visited Bali about 12 years back, stayed at Lovina which at that time was great. I have no desire to live near Kuta or any other tourist traps. My lifestyle consists of a small rented dwelling, 3 bedrooms, and quiet location. Access to reasonable medical facilities and shops.
 

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Most of the good hospitals and shops are in the south , if you search around you can find quiet areas in the bukit ,"far from the maddening crowd" , but 20 minutes from the needed facilities ,and again you can find quite cheap rented accomodation ,but it requires a lot searching .

If you have your lifetime kitap your wifes ktp is irrelevant ,you only need an skd surat keterangan domisili which replaces the sktt .
 

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If you have your lifetime kitap your wifes ktp is irrelevant ,you only need an skd surat keterangan domisili which replaces the sktt .
No, it is rather relevant. And also illegal not to change it when a WNI moves btw, even if practically nobody does it. The Balinese don't like it too much when people from other islands move there, instead of changing the KTP they prefer to provide a KIPEM/KIPS, it is easier to get a KTP changed when the WNI owns property on the island.

Even so, with a 'lifetime' you still need to report to 'your' Imigrasi every five year. (KITAP holders have no SKTT but a KTP OA btw).

Secondly, what about MERP? Sponsor has to request this every two years. At the Kantor Imigrasi where ....... you get my drift
 
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Ya i know about the balinese resistance to issuing a ktp if you dont own propery on the island , ya you have a ktp following your spouse , but we have just had discussions with immigration about this very issue im waiting for the kitap lifetime to be issued ,yes we report every 5 years .

They tell us the only thing they are interested in is my location which is assured by the skd ,so therefore if we change ktp location it should not be an issue .

Maybe their will be other issues , we will examine further , .
 

jstar

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They tell us the only thing they are interested in is my location which is assured by the skd ,so therefore if we change ktp location it should not be an issue .

Maybe their will be other issues , we will examine further , .

From another thread:

Catalan Sipil Gianyar Bali
Things are relatively straightforward at Catatan Sipil Gianyar, Bali, however the only kicker is that the KTP address of the sponsor has to be the same as the WNA's local surat domisili. For those with non-Balinese spouses who cannot obtain a Bali KTP, this leads to a conundrum which currently is only solved by getting a different sponsor for the KTP, usually the local landlord. Of course, this means that the WNA also goes on the landlord's KK, which creates a very weird situation indeed.
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