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[Pak Tani]

...but numbers are increasing due to adapting habits to Western food.

That makes you wonder...how healthy is popular Indonesian cuisine? How much worse can it get if Indonesians start adopting more western food?

The idea in the west is that we should eat 200gr to 300gr of vegetables a day with plenty of variation. But here most of the time the vegetables main function is just to give the plate a little bit of color.

Nasi Goreng is just a load of simple carbs fried in palm oil, MSG (yes!) and spices. The only vegetables on your plate are 2 slices of tomato and cucumber, and lombok. Order the Special and get a bit of chicken sprinkled on top. Mi- and mihun-based meals similar, with just a few leaves of sawi. These are just two examples of many indonesian dishes seriously lacking in nutrients from veggies, legumes and fibre.

My Indonesian GP said about nasi goreng: this is junk food, the Indonesian version.

It is junk food indeed.

 

[Samoerai]

How much worse can it get if Indonesians start adopting more western food?

It already started .. check e.g. diverticulitis .. more than 50% of the people, older than 50 years, in the Western world get this illness .. here in Asia .. never heard of .. but numbers rising. And the doctors have no clue why.

 

[Wisnu]

That makes you wonder...how healthy is popular Indonesian cuisine? How much worse can it get if Indonesians start adopting more western food?

The idea in the west is that we should eat 200gr to 300gr of vegetables a day with plenty of variation. But here most of the time the vegetables main function is just to give the plate a little bit of color.

Nasi Goreng is just a load of simple carbs fried in palm oil, MSG (yes!) and spices. The only vegetables on your plate are 2 slices of tomato and cucumber, and lombok. Order the Special and get a bit of chicken sprinkled on top. Mi- and mihun-based meals similar, with just a few leaves of sawi. These are just two examples of many indonesian dishes seriously lacking in nutrients from veggies, legumes and fibre.

My Indonesian GP said about nasi goreng: this is junk food, the Indonesian version.

It is junk food indeed.

Nasi goreng is not typical daily home cooking Indonesian dish. Indeed, it's easy to get, typical breakfast menu on hotels, particularly budget hotels, popular for tourist who look for cheap food and does not want to explore more Indonesian dish.
Actually, veggie and legume is among the typical Indonesian home cooking; there's so many "sayur" and "tumis" (stir fried) dishes such as sayur asam, sayur lodeh, sayur bobor, sayur bayam, sayur gambas, sayur pakis, tumis kangkung, tumis sawi, tumis tauge ect.
Each area has some very popular veggie dishes, such as plecing kangkung from NTT, urap from java and bali, gado-gado from jakarta, lotek from central java, karedok from west java, many more. Sundanese love raw veggies, they call "lalap".
Tempe and tofu, which are usually on the daily menu, are quite rich in protein and fiber.

 

[snpark]

I'd agree and say NG is really like a fast food "what's leftover" dish. I mean even the rice is old
Rendang is more of a national dish and that's fresh meat so healthy to a degree
Durian is fresh fruit
Lot of veggie dishes
It's only that gorengan stuff which you see more of in cities as a quick snack
Like hot dogs in times square or an espresso bar in Italy or pintxos in Spain

I would argue that mostly indonesian dishes and diet isn't too bad especially in the country where it's all day to day eating. Go fish or dig or climb for what you need and a lot of steaming in banana leaf etc not so much deep frying like the kaki lima in Jakarta

 

[flavus]

I wonder what it actually will take to bring the Michelin star to another country - before that happens, it does not really matter how good restaurants are, right?

Proximity to a country that has Michelin star does not seem to be a guarantee. e.g. Canada does not have restaurant with Michelin stars, but lots of excellent restaurants, while the US has a lot. So just because Singapore and HK have them...

 

[Jaime C]

I have yet to see any decent bagels in Indonesia. Got some almost passable ones in Jakarta in January. Not too many Jewish delis around these parts.

 

[flavus]

Not too many Jewish delis around these parts

Had a great one in Singapore at Sacha and Sons... then they closed down

 

[snpark]

Countries with worst diabetes rates in world REVEALED

Our World in Data ranked Pakistan as the country with the highest rate of diabetes. However, despite scares about poor diets and sedentary lifestyles, the US and UK both ranked much lower.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Ruserious]

I wonder what it actually will take to bring the Michelin star to another country - before that happens, it does not really matter how good restaurants are, right?

It is very strange that there are no Michelin stars in Australia. Some of the restaurants there are fantastic and much better than ones that have got stars in other countries.

 

[Pak Tani]

Countries with worst diabetes rates in world REVEALED

Our World in Data ranked Pakistan as the country with the highest rate of diabetes. However, despite scares about poor diets and sedentary lifestyles, the US and UK both ranked much lower.

www.dailymail.co.uk

They attribute a genetic predisposition to a large number of diabetes cases. This and other health problems that are related to body weight are reasons why the max BMI* for Asians is not 25 but only 23.

*Body Mass Index, a measurement to indicate a healthy weight for a particular body height

 

[snpark]

It is very strange that there are no Michelin stars in Australia. Some of the restaurants there are fantastic and much better than ones that have got stars in other countries.

They have a different system there

If you don't pay to be in the Michelin system they don't review your country.

 

[snpark]

What is Australia's equivalent of a Michelin star?
The Australian Good Food Guide Chef Hat Awards
What is the Australian equivalent to Michelin stars? The Australian Good Food Guide Chef Hat Awards is the closest rating system to the Michelin Star in Australia. This system rates a restaurant from 0 to 20, awarding a number of hats that correspond to a number of Michelin stars.Oct 8, 2022

 

[snpark]

Does Australia have any Michelin star restaurants?
However, one country that the Michelin Guide has yet to cover is Australia. Despite the absence of the Michelin Guide, Australia's culinary scene has been thriving in recent years. The country boasts a diverse range of cuisine, from indigenous flavors to innovative fusion dishes.Mar 28, 2023

 

[snpark]

Michelin star restaurants Australia
From sources across the web
image of Tetsuya's
www.tetsuyas.com
Tetsuya's
image of Attica
twitter.com
Attica
image of Sixpenny
www.sixpenny.com.au
Sixpenny
image of Raku
www.rakudining.com.au
Raku
image of Oncore by Clare Smyth
www.delicious.com.au
Oncore by Clare Smyth

 

[flavus]

The Australian Good Food Guide Chef Hat Awards is the closest rating system to the Michelin Star in Australia. This system rates a restaurant from 0 to 20, awarding a number of hats that correspond to a number of Michelin stars.

Indonesia should start its own! After all the Michelin Guide is produced by .. a tyre company.

Problem is, which company / organization has the longevity and impartiality to do it properly

 

[Balifrog]

Does Australia have any Michelin star restaurants?
However, one country that the Michelin Guide has yet to cover is Australia. Despite the absence of the Michelin Guide, Australia's culinary scene has been thriving in recent years. The country boasts a diverse range of cuisine, from indigenous flavors to innovative fusion dishes.Mar 28, 2023

Well mate, I have travelled around the world. Most cities have Chinese, Lebanese, Vietnamese, French, Japanese, Thai restaurants but seldom saw Aussie restaurants.
Except if you count the sports bars and Aussie BBQ as gastronomic restaurants !

 

[flavus]

seldom saw Aussie restaurants.

The lamb in Australia is excellent though!

But yeah I was disappointed when I found out Outback is a chain from... Florida

I am also lamenting the lack of Indonesian restaurants overseas

 

[Balifrog]

The lamb in Australia is excellent though!

Agreed !

And bloody expensive here !

 

[jstar]

Indonesia should start its own! After all the Michelin Guide is produced by .. a tyre company.

Problem is, which company / organization has the longevity and impartiality to do it properly

Talking about Indonesian restaurants worldwide, as far as I know there are none with a Michelin star.

There are some (7 out of 11) with a so called Bib Gourmand which is an award created in 1997, attributed by the Michelin Guide. It points at ‘good‘ restaurants that offer a refined cuisine at an affordable price (€36 in Paris for instance).

I know some of them, and I’m not so sure whether they are really Indonesian cuisines at all. If you look at the Spandershoeve in The Netherlands for instance, it is specialized on the Rijsttafel. Rather expensive, bit of upscale clientèle (Mercedes en Bentley parked in front).

This rijsttafel is not Indonesian but invented by the (rich) Dutch colonizer at the time to make a nice impression. (Served by approx. 15 people.) Also, the dishes are not that spicy but adapted to European taste and all rather sweet and somewhat bland. That, even when the dishes carry Indonesian names, you could call the Indische keuken.

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[jstar]

with a so called Bib Gourmand

Bib (Bibendum) is the company's nickname for the Michelin Man.