Married abroad, mixed religion, with one party being Muslim must now be registered at KUA, and the other party must convert.

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Christians cannot intermarry Muslims via religious ceremony and vice versa (in Indonesia, in other countries Musmils can marry Christian and Jew wives under some conditions).

Indonesia has a long time been a racist society
Racist society? Jew wives? I believe the word you were looking for was "Jewish" wives.
 

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Ok, here’s the deal. The current Director General of Population and Civil Registry applies his own interpretation to the Supreme Court ruling, which is wrong.


If you’re lucky, you can find a catatan sipil office in Jakarta that doesn’t care. Unfortunately the only way to challenge it elsewhere is by going to court. As recent as 2015 a Catholic and Buddhist couple successfully sued to have their marriage registered, by court order.

 

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Ok, here’s the deal. The current Director General of Population and Civil Registry applies his own interpretation to the Supreme Court ruling, which is wrong.


If you’re lucky, you can find a catatan sipil office in Jakarta that doesn’t care. Unfortunately the only way to challenge it elsewhere is by going to court. As recent as 2015 a Catholic and Buddhist couple successfully sued to have their marriage registered, by court order.

Jakarta Civil Registry Office still allows the recording of foreign marriages irrelevant to religion, out of Jakarta is harder.
 
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Surabaya court rules marriage between two people with different religion is legal, arguing that difference in religion does not prevent marriage according to the law. It also says people have a right to their beliefs, and to get married.

The couple (muslim husband, christian wife) petitioned the court to recognize their marriage, after both KUA and CatSip refused to register their marriage.


 

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Surabaya court rules marriage between two people with different religion is legal, arguing that difference in religion does not prevent marriage according to the law. It also says people have a right to their beliefs, and to get married.

The couple (muslim husband, christian wife) petitioned the court to recognize their marriage, after both KUA and CatSip refused to register their marriage.


The legal precedent is very clear, all the way to the supreme court. It appears that certain catatan sipil officers against interfaith marriage are fighting it by requiring court order for every single couple.

“We don’t want to do it. If you don’t like it, make us do it by court order.”
 

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The legal precedent is very clear, all the way to the supreme court. It appears that certain catatan sipil officers against interfaith marriage are fighting it by requiring court order for every single couple.

“We don’t want to do it. If you don’t like it, make us do it by court order.”
Jakarta stated refusing registering foreign mixed Islam-other marriages from this Monday and reffering them to KUA for registration in shariah-friendly form.

This is what applicants get:
"Pemberitahuan perkawinan luar negeri an. XXXX dan XXXX. untuk agama Islam silahkan lapor perkawinan luar ngeri di KUA sesuai domisili KTP, terima kasih"
 

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At least there is a legal avenue to get it recognised. Filing for a court order that forces CatSip to recognise the marriage is an administrative pain, but probably not too expensive.
Maybe a new thread for people in this position in the future would be useful, explaining how to do it and what the costs are.
 

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