Maybe in the perfume business, because I smell a skunk, or maybe it's a Rat?H+What jobs are available for expats with minimal Indonesian langaugae skills? Alternatively, if one goes to intensive INdonesian school upon arrivlal, how hard it to acquie jobs
This obviously is someone baiting for information! By purposefully misspelling your inquiry about Expats working. There are only a few exceptions for foreigners to be allowed to work. It is illegal for foreigners to work in Indonesia!Not a rat, not in the perfume business. My query is sincere. If you could tell me possibilities upon copleting INdonesian language training, that woul be ereat and mucn appreciated.
Only work experienced foreigners can work legally in Indonesia .H+What jobs are available for expats with minimal Indonesian langaugae skills? Alternatively, if one goes to intensive INdonesian school upon arrivlal, how hard it to acquie jobs
Coding.H+What jobs are available for expats with minimal Indonesian langaugae skills? Alternatively, if one goes to intensive INdonesian school upon arrivlal, how hard it to acquie jobs
What the hell are you on about? Of course it's legal for foreigners to work in Indonesia with the necessary permits.This obviously is someone baiting for information! By purposefully misspelling your inquiry about Expats working. There are only a few exceptions for foreigners to be allowed to work. It is illegal for foreigners to work in Indonesia!
As others have pointed out, depending on the job, proficiency in Indonesian may not always be required. For instance, reasonable number of Chinese construction workers on projects funded by Chinese government loans, working in Indonesia do not speak Indonesian. Similarly, projects financed through loans from other countries often do not require Indonesian language skills.H+What jobs are available for expats with minimal Indonesian language skills? Alternatively, if one goes to intensive Indonesian school upon arrival,
The general requirements for working in Indonesia are similar to those in other countries:.... how hard it to acquire jobs
Absolutely agree with this.What the hell are you on about? Of course it's legal for foreigners to work in Indonesia with the necessary permits.
Anyway, you are completely paranoid. So please cease your baseless accusations.
Chinese are 50% or more of these 170.000, followong Koreans and Japanese, others becoming ineligible numbers.Absolutely agree with this.
I've recently read statistics post COVID listing the number of foreign workers being already almost 170.000 with China (by far), Japan and South Korea being the leading nations providing the largest number of expat workers to Indonesia. In 2024 the number has increased again and most likely in 2025 number will be close to or exceed 200.000.
Talking about "a few exceptions" when numbers are in the tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousand is just ridiculous.
Though obviously not being the most important skill to have, being proficient in bahasa Indonesia would definitely give you the edge on a job if in competition with another worker with the required skill for the job but with no language skill.
At least it would be my reasoning if I were to hire a foreign worker, particularly if he is in a position which requires him to manage/supervise Indonesian co-workers who have limited or no English.
Yes, that's the figures I remember and I wouldn't be surprised that the Chinese contingent continues to increase much aster than all the other nations.Chinese are 50% or more of these 170.000, followong Koreans and Japanese, others becoming ineligible numbers.
And the Labor Union members protest that the Chinese are taking their jobs and government counters with they are all legal by Immigration regulations. If the government continues to let Chinese investments go wild then the future will certainly bring in more Chinese workers causing more protest.Yes, that's the figures I remember and I wouldn't be surprised that the Chinese contingent continues to increase much aster than all the other nations.
This is something I have been saying to my Indonesian friends, for a long time. If the Indonesian government continues to allow foreign nations,(China, Russia, etc,) make investments, and borrow money from them to build infrastructures in Indonesia, then the foreign countries are going to want some control over their investments.And the Labor Union members protest that the Chinese are taking their jobs and government counters with they are all legal by Immigration regulations. If the government continues to let Chinese investments go wild then the future will certainly bring in more Chinese workers causing more protest.
They protest because they have to work side by side with Chinese laborers who get visas by being listed as managers. I'm not sure of the current regulations but at one time it was you had to have 10 Indonesian workers for every 1 foreign workers. Management was excluded from the numbers.This is something I have been saying to my Indonesian friends, for a long time. If the Indonesian government continues to allow foreign nations,(China, Russia, etc,) make investments, and borrow money from them to build infrastructures in Indonesia, then the foreign countries are going to want some control over their investments.
As for Chinese workers. I thought foreign workers were only allowed to work with the proper permits, for jobs that only they could do? To the best of my knowledge, foreigners are not allowed to work otherwise!
So how can labor Unions protest what sounds like legal actions?
I am not acquainted with jobs that have Chinese and Indonesians working side by side. I thought most foreign workers worked for foreign companies here, where their foreign skills were needed, because the Indonesians did not have these skills.They protest because they have to work side by side with Chinese laborers who get visas by being listed as managers. I'm not sure of the current regulations but at one time it was you had to have 10 Indonesian workers for every 1 foreign workers. Management was excluded from the numbers.
No, the majority of the Chinese workers are common laborers, the same as the Indonesians. They are listed as managers for Immigration approval sake only.I am not acquainted with jobs that have Chinese and Indonesians working side by side. I thought most foreign workers worked for foreign companies here, where their foreign skills were needed, because the Indonesians did not have these skills.
And if Indonesians are working for these foreign owned companies, it might be true, that the Chinese became managers because they had the qualifications needed for the job, and the Indonesians didn't?
Interesting, how do you gets this kind of information about common laborers?No, the majority of the Chinese workers are common laborers, the same as the Indonesians. They are listed as managers for Immigration approval sake only.
Ah, from common laborers and what the Labor Unions say.Interesting, how do you gets this kind of information about common laborers?![]()