How to obtain Indonesian Citizenship

[Helpful Herbert]

I think you need some kind of letter or confirmation from your country that your citizenship will be renounced and passport cancelled once you get the Indonesian one, otherwise it won't be possible.

 

[beebop]

I think you need some kind of letter or confirmation from your country that your citizenship will be renounced and passport cancelled once you get the Indonesian one, otherwise it won't be possible.

Can someone please elaborate on this.. i called my embassy & they said i can apply to renounce my citizenship, however they said they dont do any letters of confirmation.. is it perhaps an affidavit that i wright up & the embassy puts their stamp on it to confirm that what i said is the truth? I would love to hear this from anyone who has actually done this.

 

[ace]

Hello. I am currently in the process of obtaining the multitude of documents required to obtain Indonesian citizenship. 1 document is left to obtain, the Letter Of No Objection. I am a British national. The British Embassy, and the Home Office, have stated they do not provide the Letter Of No Objection, so any ex-British nationals, such as @Bad_azz, if you can kindly let me know how you obtained this letter, it would be much appreciated.

My regards, Ace.

 

[Bad_azz]

Hello. I am currently in the process of obtaining the multitude of documents required to obtain Indonesian citizenship. 1 document is left to obtain, the Letter Of No Objection. I am a British national. The British Embassy, and the Home Office, have stated they do not provide the Letter Of No Objection, so any ex-British nationals, such as @Bad_azz, if you can kindly let me know how you obtained this letter, it would be much appreciated.

My regards, Ace.

I got a letter of no objection from the British Embassy in Jakarta- DEC 2020.

It cost me I believe 50 quid or thereabouts... If they are saying they do not do this- just double check with them that it is clearly re citizenship not re marriage... if they still insist that they do not do this then ask them what they do actually do now- and please post in here because it would be great to keep the thread up to date

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Oh I found the email from them stating the steps:

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Thank you for your email which forwarded to us for a reply.
Well noted in regards to your intention to apply for an Indonesian citizenship. Please be informed that at the first stage of your application, we are able to issue you with the letter of no objection stating that we do not have any objections for you to apply for the Indonesian citizenship. You will need to come to us in person to apply for such document by bringing your original British passport and the supporting documents (if any) e.g. letter from Immigration and etc. This letter should be submitted when you make an application for the citizenship.

At the second stage, when you have already obtained the Indonesian citizenship, you will be required to get the letter from us to state that you have cancelled your passport with us and that you will renounce your British citizenship. You will still need to come to us for this document and you will be required to present the original of your passport and the certificate of citizenship from the Ministry of Law and Human Rights. Once you have done all of this, you can make an application to renounce your British citizenship with the Home Office in the UK.

The fee for each letter is £50 by Visa or Master debit/credit card. The payment will be made on your visit.

The above process should not be taken as definite depending on the authorities on your area. Some have come to us only to apply for the second letter when they have been given the citizenship. Therefore, grateful if you could confirm of where you are in the process of applying the Indonesian citizenship. You can check with the authorities first to make sure about the letter before you can come to us.

Please advise should you like to apply for the letter from us.

Best regards,

Consular Section | Foreign, Commonwealth, & Development Office

British Embassy Jakarta | Jl. Patra Kuningan Raya Blok L5-6 | Jakarta | Indonesia | 12950

Email: [email protected] | Phone: +62 (0)21 2356 5200

DFID and the FCO merged on 2nd Sept, creating the Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office (FCDO). Our email address is now [email protected]. Please use this address for all future emails.

 

[ace]

First of all, many thanks for your prompt and informative reply.

And now, sheesh, shaking head. Frankly it's an absolute mess. I have contacted them numerous times, and 50% of the time I got told they do not provide such a document. After a few attempts, I decided to not be as polite, and reiterated to them that they do, and that they have issued this document for others. I asked to speak to someone with more authority and knowledge on this matter, and was put on hold. Upon the telephone agents return, they apologised and said they do provide such a document, and that I was to contact them via some private email. I did, and as of yet, 2 weeks later no reply.

I rang again, and was told there is a backlog hence the lack of reply. I waited a bit, rang again, only to be told they do not provide this document, and topics concerning nationality are handled by nationality enquiries at the Home Office. I email them, no reply. I ring them, they tell me they have no knowledge of such a document. I ring again, and they point me to the online renunciation form.

So I have been given the run-around for about a month, with inconsistent information, and various employees and agents singing from very different pages.

Anyway, upon going through various translations of the required Letter Of No Objection, and the original in Bahasa Indonesia, it appears that it is more a case of I the undersigned hereby declare type of thing, and then they stamp it. Thus, I contact them again, this time to tell them, I can't make an appointment online, as I need to get a letter stamped by them. The reply rather quickly pointing me to where one can book an appointment online. I reply to them, stating I have been trying at that place for a month, but all options are blanked out, nothing is selectable.

However, reading your reply, I am now thinking maybe they still do provide this Letter.

I will be contacting them again tomorrow, and shall ring them. I shall update this thread, and reply to your question when I finally figure out what they do now, cos at the moment, they do nothing other than waste one's time.

Once again, many thanks for your response.

 

[Bad_azz]

First of all, many thanks for your prompt and informative reply.

And now, sheesh, shaking head. Frankly it's an absolute mess. I have contacted them numerous times, and 50% of the time I got told they do not provide such a document. After a few attempts, I decided to not be as polite, and reiterated to them that they do, and that they have issued this document for others. I asked to speak to someone with more authority and knowledge on this matter, and was put on hold. Upon the telephone agents return, they apologised and said they do provide such a document, and that I was to contact them via some private email. I did, and as of yet, 2 weeks later no reply.

I rang again, and was told there is a backlog hence the lack of reply. I waited a bit, rang again, only to be told they do not provide this document, and topics concerning nationality are handled by nationality enquiries at the Home Office. I email them, no reply. I ring them, they tell me they have no knowledge of such a document. I ring again, and they point me to the online renunciation form.

So I have been given the run-around for about a month, with inconsistent information, and various employees and agents singing from very different pages.

Anyway, upon going through various translations of the required Letter Of No Objection, and the original in Bahasa Indonesia, it appears that it is more a case of I the undersigned hereby declare type of thing, and then they stamp it. Thus, I contact them again, this time to tell them, I can't make an appointment online, as I need to get a letter stamped by them. The reply rather quickly pointing me to where one can book an appointment online. I reply to them, stating I have been trying at that place for a month, but all options are blanked out, nothing is selectable.

However, reading your reply, I am now thinking maybe they still do provide this Letter.

I will be contacting them again tomorrow, and shall ring them. I shall update this thread, and reply to your question when I finally figure out what they do now, cos at the moment, they do nothing other than waste one's time.

Once again, many thanks for your response.

By all means copy & paste the info from my post above to the email address on it & see what they say.
I had to make an appointment- I had to go there- the letter was made by them- no signature on it from me. I had to sign at the window to say I had received it though.
The letter was written out in full in English and in Indonesian by them and officially stamped and signed by the vice consul.
to be very fair , I had no problems with them at all they were amazingly helpful, perhaps new staff?
the guy who I spoke with in all the emails between us was also the guy who handed me the documents in person too. He was super-helpful and polite.

 

[ace]

Thank you, I shall copy and paste the excerpt from the email. Ok, noted, so they make the letter, stamp and sign it. Fingers crossed, although I'll end up crossing my fingers so many times, they'll be braided.

 

[Bad_azz]

Thank you, I shall copy and paste the excerpt from the email. Ok, noted, so they make the letter, stamp and sign it. Fingers crossed, although I'll end up crossing my fingers so many times, they'll be braided.

I have a pdf of the letter but I cannot upload it as too large, sorry.
This is what they wrote:
This is to certify that the British Embassy at Jakarta has no objection to [name] of British national passport [number] issued by IPS on [date] making an application to obtain the Republic of Indonesia citizenship...
[name] may apply for a Declaration of Renunciation of British National citizenship after he [yep- I wanted to comment about them changing my gender - but decided wasn't worth the hassle] obtains the Republic of Indonesia Citizenship.

It was on official embassy paper and stamped and signed.

 

[Bad_azz]

Thank you, I shall copy and paste the excerpt from the email. Ok, noted, so they make the letter, stamp and sign it. Fingers crossed, although I'll end up crossing my fingers so many times, they'll be braided.

please note that also in the email they sent me there were 2 documents attached- one was to select the service required- consular service. and one was a credit card payment slip - both had to be completed & returned - payment in advance (as ever with government bodies)

 

[ace]

@Bad_azz I would certainly like to see that PDF, by all means please do remove any and all personally identifiable information from it. It would greatly help me to get whomever I am speaking to at their end to acknowledge they have provided this Letter in the past. If I may suggest using a file-sharing service such as https://www.filemail.com/, you can use it to share up to a 5 GB file for free. Upload as a link rather than using an email address, and share the subsequent link in here. Or if you want my email address, I will share it in PM, actually do they permit PM's here?

 

[Bad_azz]

@Bad_azz I would certainly like to see that PDF, by all means please do remove any and all personally identifiable information from it. It would greatly help me to get whomever I am speaking to at their end to acknowledge they have provided this Letter in the past. If I may suggest using a file-sharing service such as https://www.filemail.com/, you can use it to share up to a 5 GB file for free. Upload as a link rather than using an email address, and share the subsequent link in here. Or if you want my email address, I will share it in PM, actually do they permit PM's here?

Yep sent you a PM look at the envelope at the top right

 

[BliGundul]

I don't know, Atlantis, if I should put this in a different thread, but I just had a situation that touches on this point. When my daughter went to Hukum dan HAM to apply for her certificate that attests that she is solely an Indonesian citizen, they asked for a letter from the US Embassy/Consulate confirming that she was going to give up her US citizenship. They refused and said that she needed to formally apply for a renunciation of her citizenship. We ended up going that route which entailed going to Surabaya to go through the paperwork and formalities and pay (cash or credit card) the $2,350 for the process (most expensive country in the world to give up your citizenship). They also informed us that it was possible that the State Department in Washington might not accept her application, in which case she would have been stuck as she wants to stay in Indonesia. So, to the point here, if a US citizen is going to become an Indonesian citizen they have to formally give up the US citizenship and no going back once the process is started.

I just asked about doing this in Bali, and was referred by the Consular staff this morning
to get in touch with Jakarta.
I wonder if it can still be done in Surabaya?
Maybe not due to Coviggedon?

 

[Bad_azz]

Just bumping this thread up to make it a bit easier to find as I have been messaged about some of the contents.
As my citizenship journey has been over and done with for a couple of years, can anyone confirm the fees are still the same?

 

[centurion]

Just bumping this thread up to make it a bit easier to find as I have been messaged about some of the contents.
As my citizenship journey has been over and done with for a couple of years, can anyone confirm the fees are still the same?

The Government Fee went from 5 million to 15 million. The process is slower now and documentary requirements are more strict.

 

[Bad_azz]

The Government Fee went from 5 million to 15 million. The process is slower now and documentary requirements are more strict.

Yes I paid 15 million, plus 3 million plus other sundry fees, such as embassy letters & then renouncing the UK citizenship fees... I don't think I got much change out of 30 million.

 

[Helpful Herbert]

The Government Fee went from 5 million to 15 million. The process is slower now and documentary requirements are more strict.

More strict in what way?

 

[centurion]

More strict in what way?

The Ministry added additional statements that have to be submitted, some documents have to be legalized in the country of origin (earlier Indonesian notary legalizations were accepted), SKIM takes more time to get, and the process in the Ministry is longer.

 

[flavus]

some documents have to be legalized in the country of origin

To clarify - having it be legalized by the consulate of the respective country should be enough, right?

 

[centurion]

To clarify - having it be legalized by the consulate of the respective country should be enough, right?

Birth certificates should be legalized in the county of origin (apostille or full legalization). Embassy legalizations are usually accepted, but not many embassies legalize their documents.

 

[santos black]

The Government Fee went from 5 million to 15 million. The process is slower now and documentary requirements are more strict.

Few days ago i paid 3m for the SKIM.