Homeschooling (Pendidikan Nonformal)

[serious_fun]

Here are some relevant gov't documents re: homeschooling in Indonesia.

Permendikbud No 129 tahun 2014 tentang Sekolah Rumah.pdf - Google Drive

Pendirian satuan Pendidikan Nonformal

Only one mention of homeschooling on the Kementerian Pendidikan dan Kebudayaan site as far as I could see:

Pendidikan Sekolah Rumah Menajamkan Potensi dan Bakat Anak Berkelanjutan


Do any of you have experience educating your children at home while living in Indo? Any intelligent comments/advice would be appreciated, particularly any experience(s) with equivalency exams and affidavits/proof of enrollment.

Please do not provide references to any "service providers". I'm NOT looking for a tutor or a school.

makasih

 

[serious_fun]

It's been 12 weeks since I posted the original question... not one person has any info or experiences re: homeschooling in Indonesia?

 

[pantaiema]

It's been 12 weeks since I posted the original question... not one person has any info or experiences re: homeschooling in Indonesia?

In Indonesia, the government offers non-formal education programs aimed primarily at adults in remote or underprivileged areas. These individuals may have missed out on formal education during their childhood due to the need to work and support their families. The program is known as "Kejar Paket A, B, and C." The program have been running since a few decades ago. Participants can study either individually, in groups or mixed mode using free learning materials provided by the government especially for this purpose. These resources are available in both printed and online formats. In a few occasion they might be visited by professional teachers who pass in those areas to help them.

As for the children, I am not quite sure though whether they could enrol in such program, as children have privileged and protected by the law and international convention. Also for their psychological development, they need a better environment to be able play, learn together with other children

You can find examples of the learning activities and materials at:

Kejar Paket Online Sekolah Ujian Kesetaraan SD SMP SMA

Kejar Paket Online Lembaga Ujian Kesetaraan Kejar Paket A, B, dan C Setara SD, SMP, dan SMA terdaftar di Kemendikbud Legal Resmi

kejarpaketonline.com

Here's an example of a news article covering the program:

PKBM Go Digital, Wujudkan Kejar Paket A, B, C Bersama Aplikasi KIPIN School - Kumpulan Artikel Dan Berita Pendidikan Indonesia Berbasis Tehnologi Digital

Suasana kelas pembelajaran PKBM. Seminar Pembelajaran Digital Batch I untuk PKBM (Pusat Kegiatan Belajar Masyarakat) pertama telah selesai dengan sukses.

pendidikan.id

Searching terms like “Kejar Paket A” online will yield a lot of useful information.

After completing the learning modules in "Kejar Paket A," for instance participants could take an exam. If they pass, they receive a nationally reconised certificate equivalent to an elementary school diploma. Similarly, "Kejar Paket B" leads to a junior high school equivalent certificate, and "Kejar Paket C" corresponds to a senior high school diploma.

 

[Helpful Herbert]

I know of a few that left the school to be home schooled during covid and have recently returned to the school after a gap of a few years. I very much doubt if the government does any checks on homeschooling as they would in the western world.

 

[serious_fun]

In Indonesia, the government offers non-formal education programs aimed primarily at adults in remote or underprivileged areas.

That's a wonderful program, and one hopes that it helps those who are enrolled.

Please read my original post; I'm searching for information re: equivalency exams and affidavits/proof of enrollment that local authorities may need to prove the homeschooling is taking place. I cannot find anything online.

As Helpful Herbert suggests, local gov't probably won't check...if they don't seem to care about fire safety and dangerous transport at local schools why would they question a foreign family who is educating at home while using a respected international (online) curriculum?

In a few occasion they might be visited by professional teachers who pass in those areas to help them.

local "professional teachers" might visit them?

As for the children, I am not quite sure though whether they could enrol in such program, as children have privileged and protected by the law and international convention.

what? I don't understand your sentence.

Also for their psychological development, they need a better environment to be able play, learn together with other children

That's very much open to debate; homeschooling programs around the globe are quite often superior to "public schools".

After completing the learning modules in "Kejar Paket A," for instance participants could take an exam. If they pass, they receive a nationally reconised certificate equivalent to an elementary school diploma. Similarly, "Kejar Paket B" leads to a junior high school equivalent certificate, and "Kejar Paket C" corresponds to a senior high school diploma.

Okay, fair enough. For those of us who value more rigorous standards, the IGCSE and other exams (A levels & O levels for example), are offered in Indonesia. If I remember correctly, there is a private school in Jakarta which administers an American High School proficiency exam each year. I can't find the URL at the moment.

FYI: The Surat Tanda Tamat Belajar or Sekolah Menengah Unum Tingkat Atas is considered by many colleges in the US to be the equivalent of a U.S. high school diploma.

I'll post any links if/when I find them.

 

[serious_fun]

If I remember correctly, there is a private school in Jakarta which administers an American High School proficiency exam each year. I can't find the URL at the moment.

I'll post any links if/when I find them.

Okay, I found the American high school proficiency exam which is offered in Indonesia.

GED Testing Service offers the G.E.D. exam at 3 venues in Jakarta according to their website. The exam is broken into 4 core subject areas, and each one of the 4 exams costs US$ 85 (subject to change one assumes). The test-taker must be 16 years of age or older.

University of Indonesia​

Fakultas Teknik UI Gedung C Lt Dasar
Salemba Jakarta 10430​

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Multimatics​

AXA Tower 37th Floor
Jakarta 12940​

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PT Sampoerna Pendidikan Internasional​

L'Avenue Office Tower
DKI Jakarta 12780​

I hope that this helps someone.

 

[pantaiema]

Okay, I found the American high school proficiency exam which is offered in Indonesia.

GED Testing Service offers the G.E.D. exam at 3 venues in Jakarta according to their website. The exam is broken into 4 core subject areas, and each one of the 4 exams costs US$ 85 (subject to change one assumes). The test-taker must be 16 years of age or older.

University of Indonesia​

Fakultas Teknik UI Gedung C Lt Dasar​

Salemba Jakarta 10430​

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Multimatics​

AXA Tower 37th Floor​

Jakarta 12940​

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PT Sampoerna Pendidikan Internasional​

L'Avenue Office Tower​

DKI Jakarta 12780​

I hope that this helps someone.

One needs to be aware of. The GED is primarily intended as a U.S. high school equivalency test, designed for those who did not complete high school in the traditional way. While it is recognised within the U.S., it is not commonly used outside the country.

Though many U.S. universities accept the GED, top-tier institutions typically do not consider it sufficient for admission on its own. Applicants will often need to provide additional qualifications such as SAT, ACT, or AP exams alongside their GED. Additionally, non-native English speakers will likely be required to take either the TOEFL or IELTS. Some lower-tier private U.S. universities may accept a wider range of students, as they depend on tuition fees to operate, with some viewing universities as profit-driven entities.

In countries that offer free tuition fees in higher education, such as Germany (DE), Switzerland (CH), Austria (AT), and Scandinavian countries, the GED is not accepted for entry into state-funded universities. Even in countries like the United Kingdom, where tuition fees apply, the GED is generally not accepted as a stand-alone qualification for university admission, especially at prestigious or traditional universities. Applicants are usually required to have A-levels, the International Baccalaureate (IB), or other recognized qualifications, and the GED is not considered equivalent to these. Also in Indonesia GED is not accepted as a qualification for entry into state universities in Indonesia or to become civil servants.

This statement is certainly misleading:
"#1 most recognized higher secondary certificate worldwide"

One might question the value of taking the GED test in Indonesia if it only grants access to lower-tier universities globally. In addition, in Indonesia, it will limit your chance to gain employment severely, limits your chances of securing scholarships from the Indonesian government or foreign governments to fund your higher education, likely making it next to none. For talented Indonesians, attending a traditional top senior high school in Indonesia may offer a better opportunity to win the scholarships and/or to gain admission to prestigious universities in Indonesia and worldwide.

 

[serious_fun]

One needs to be aware of.

(sigh) Here we go again...the person who loves hijacking threads.

The GED is primarily intended as a U.S. high school equivalency test, designed for those who did not complete high school in the traditional way. While it is recognised within the U.S., it is not commonly used outside the country.

wow! Did you figure that out all by yourself? Yes, the American high school proficiency exam is recognized within the USA, and is for those who want (can you guess?) an American high school diploma.

Though many U.S. universities accept the GED, top-tier institutions typically do not consider it sufficient for admission on its own. Applicants will often need to provide additional qualifications such as ...

The info. which you copied and pasted (your normal strategy since you actually don't have a clue about what we're discussing here) is outdated. This thread is about homeschooling in Indonesia and the availability of equivalency exams and affidavits/proof of enrollment.

BTW, also of interest/importance would be personal experience(s) moving from homeschooling to a traditional school.

... A-levels, the International Baccalaureate (IB), or other recognized qualifications, and the GED is not considered equivalent to these.

Nobody has claimed that the G.E.D. is equivalent to either IB certs or A-levels. Your hijacking of this and other threads is incredibly disruptive and could cause confusion to an individual who is looking for accurate information...since your government (one assumes that you're a local) can't seem to provide anything to guide home schooling families in Indonesia other than what I posted in the O.P. (please refer to the 3 links I gave).

So, back to providing actual information that may help expats (and locals) who are considering home schooling while living in Indonesia:

contact for IELTS exams

contact for IGCSE, International AS and A Level exams


According to various online sources:

... Indonesian law requires homeschooling parents to follow the national curriculum, which covers subjects like Indonesian language, mathematics, and civic education. Parents are also required to report their homeschooling status to the local education office and submit an annual progress report.

Here is a blog with a few relevant comments:

...you should coordinate and provide periodic reports to the district or city education service where you live. Coordination and this report is important so that when your children need an equality exam will be done smoothly without any hindrance.

I'll report back if/when I find more resources.

 

[serious_fun]

(this is a Google translation of the document)
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Contents of Permendikbud 129 of 2014​

Article 1

Regulations related to the differences between formal, non-formal, and informal education which have equal status. In more detail, Article 1 explains the division of single, multiple, and community home schools. Several learning tools are also mentioned in this article, including curriculum, progress reports, diplomas, national exams, and equivalency programs.

Article 2

Home schools are organized for various purposes, such as the fulfillment of quality basic and secondary education services in a flexible manner with independent learning that is directed in a conducive atmosphere for students.

Article 3

Home schools are carried out by families and the environment with independent learning.

Article 4

The results of home school education are recognized as the same as formal and non-formal education, so that the certificates issued will have the same opportunity in the world of work.

Article 5

The form of home school consists of single, multiple, and community.

Article 6

Homeschool registration can be done at the City or Regency Education Office with certain requirements including the identity of the parents and students, a statement letter from the parents or person in charge as well as the students, and school program documents through a learning plan.

Article 7

Regulations related to the curriculum refer to the national curriculum as the achievement of its indicators by teaching Religious education, Pancasila and Citizenship education, and Indonesian language education. The curriculum taught must pay attention to the interests, potential, and needs of students.

Article 8

Homeschool students can take the National Examination/United Nations Examinations at formal or non-formal education units approved or appointed by the local Regency/City Education Office. Assessment of learning outcomes can be carried out by the Education Unit Institution to the Central Government.

Article 9

Homeschools have the authority to organize an open and multi-meaning education system, in accordance with the education program taken by the students.

Article 10

Homeschooled students can also be accepted at elementary school level not at the beginning of grade 1 and junior high school not at the beginning of grade 7 in public schools after passing the eligibility test and/or passing the UNPK Package.

Article 11

Homeschooled students can also be accepted at senior high school and vocational school levels not at the beginning of grade 10 in public schools after passing the eligibility test and/or passing the UNPK Package.

Article 12

Homeschooled students can take the UN/UNPK at formal or non-formal education units approved or appointed by the local Regency or City Education Office.

Article 13

The Regional Government is obliged to provide guidance for homeschooling.

Articles 14 to 16 relate to regulations that have been established and must be followed by all existing homeschools in Indonesia and will be further regulated in the technical instructions of the Director General. All articles are summarized from the official publication of the Indonesian Minister of Education and Culture Regulation Number 129 of 2014

 

[pantaiema]

I'm not sure if you're aware, but when participating in a discussion forum, the goal is open exchange. People may respond in ways you don't agree with, that's part of meaningful discussion.

A sensible person will not assume what others may or may not know about something. When it comes to university admissions, both in Indonesia and internationally, I speak from personal experience. I’ve been through the process myself and have helped a few family members, relatives, and friends in gaining admission to universities both in Indonesia and in developed countries, including some top-tier universities.

IELTS, and A or AS-levels conducted by the British Council is nothing to do with homeschooling. These are standardised qualifications accepted for university admission in the UK, and they are open to all students, including those from traditional schooling backgrounds. IELTS, especially, it is just an english proficiency test taken not only for foreign student but also for immigration purposes. In fact, in Indonesia, for university admission, these exams are typically taken by students from National Plus (or international) schools that often charge hundreds of millions of rupiahs in tuition as part of their preparation to study abroad. It's rare for homeschooled students in Indonesia to pursue these exams.

I am very familiar with the admissions in higher education in Indonesia, in the UK and around the world. If you're interested in a well-informed discussion about university admissions, university world, I'm more than happy to continue the conversation.

If you believe information is misleading, it’s fair to point it out. This statement from GED official website is certainly misleading:
"#1 most recognized higher secondary certificate worldwide"

Copy and paste such as providing a link or quotation from a reliable source is certainly more accurate rather than relying on information from unknown people on the internet.

To summarise what I said in post #7. Please free to single out if any of these information is incorrect,. I am more than happy to learn a new thing.

• The GED is not a standard pathway to university, even in the US. it’s an alternative for those who didn’t complete traditional high school.
• Your chances of getting into top-tier universities like Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, or UPenn, UCB, etc with a GED is very slim.
• In countries that offer tuition-free higher education, such as Germany, Switzerland, Austria, and Scandinavian countries, the GED is not accepted for university admission. So there's virtually no chance of admission at ETH Zürich, EPFL, TU Munich, etc. The tution fees to study at one of these top engineering school in the world is free, Even when the tuition fees applies such as Oxford, Cambridge, Imperial college, etc GED is not recognised.
• The GED is not recognised for entry into ALL state universities in Indonesia
• The GED is not recognised as qualification for becoming a civil servant in Indonesia
• The GED is not useful for competing for scholarships from the Indonesian government or international programs aimed at Indonesian students

So, how is the GED useful for Indonesian people or expats with school children living in Indonesia, when attending a traditional top high school might be a better option. For non traditional route, home schooling, completing Kejar Paket C (Post#3) might offer people in Indonesia, and expat with family in Indonesia, a better chance to be accepted at the university in Indonesia, and for employment in Indonesia. I believe some people might not aware about this.

Homeschooling might be an option at the elementary level, especially if the parents themselves or they could find someone, friends, relatives, who understand well about pedagogic, children development. But for senior high school, A-Level ?? I fully believe it's challenging to find a single person who is qualified to teach all STEM subjects like Math, Physics, Chemistry, Biology, and others in Indonesia. Someone migh proficient in one subject but it is very rare to find someone who could teach all STEM subjects at this level in term of knowledge and compentencies.

 

[pantaiema]

(this is a Google translation of the document)
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Kejar Paket C which is an informal route for people who want to gain qualification in Indonesia is officially recognised by the Indonesian government as equivalent to senior high school. It enables students to participate in entrance examinations for state universities in Indonesia. I may have overlooked something, but where exactly is the GED mentioned in the regulations you've provided above?

 

[serious_fun]

Kejar Paket C which is an informal route for people who want to gain qualification in Indonesia is officially recognised by the Indonesian government as equivalent to senior high school.

That's wonderful. Thank you.

It enables students to participate in entrance examinations for state universities in Indonesia.

Who mentioned sending their children to an Indonesian uni?????? God forbid that we'd be in that position.

I may have overlooked something, but where exactly is the GED mentioned in the regulations you've provided above?

(gasp!) Are you saying that the Indonesian gov't doesn't mention an American qualification in that announcement from the minister of 'education' (as it is) and 'culture' (if you can find it) ?

 

[serious_fun]

I'm not sure if you're aware, but when participating in a discussion forum, the goal is open exchange. People may respond in ways you don't agree with, that's part of meaningful discussion.

You love hijacking threads and taking them in different directions. This a pattern that is easily recognized by anyone who frequents these fora.

A sensible person will not assume what others may or may not know about something. When it comes to university admissions, both in Indonesia and internationally, I speak from personal experience. I’ve been through the process myself and have helped a few family members, relatives, and friends in gaining admission to universities both in Indonesia and in developed countries, including some top-tier universities.

Very good. Your "family members, relatives, and friends" are indebted to you.

IELTS, and A or AS-levels conducted by the British Council is nothing to do with homeschooling.

(sigh) Little buttercup, I provided links for those assessments since homeschooling families may wish to take them as they prepare for higher level coursework back in the modern world.

. It's rare for homeschooled students in Indonesia to pursue these exams.

I refer you to the reply which I gave above.

• The GED is not a standard pathway to university, even in the US. it’s an alternative for those who didn’t complete traditional high school.

oh gawd... The link for the G.E.D. is given for those who wish to earn an equivalent to an American high school diploma. It is just one option. Is that clear?

• Your chances of getting into top-tier universities like Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, or UPenn, UCB, etc with a GED is very slim.

• The GED is not recognised for entry into ALL state universities in Indonesia
• The GED is not recognised as qualification for becoming a civil servant in Indonesia
• The GED is not useful for competing for scholarships from the Indonesian government or international programs aimed at Indonesian students

Little skippy, why do you assume that homeschooling families plan on staying in the developing world, far away from decent roads, clean government, modern schools, etc. ???? Did you know that there are parts of the world that are NOT covered with plastic rubbish and where there are parks with green grass for children to play on ????

So, how is the GED useful for Indonesian people or expats with school children living in Indonesia, when attending a traditional top high school might be a better option.

Still focusing on the G.E.D. ??? That was one option for home schooling families. Can you please understand that? It's an option.

Homeschooling might be an option at the elementary level, especially if the parents themselves or they could find someone, friends, relatives, who understand well about pedagogic, children development. But for senior high school, A-Level ?? I fully believe it's challenging to find a single person who is qualified to teach all STEM subjects like Math, Physics, Chemistry, Biology, and others in Indonesia. Someone migh proficient in one subject but it is very rare to find someone who could teach all STEM subjects at this level in term of knowledge and compentencies.

Once again, you seem to be uninformed despite so much experience with world-class university admission processes.

There are many online schools and/or online curricula for parents to choose from. Some are expensive and some are very reasonable or free (e.g. Khan Academy). If you have the time, I strongly suggest that you spend 5 minutes looking at what is available.

Schools in Indonesia are in the bottom 20% of the world. "Top high schools" ??? Those must be the ones where only foreigners are doing the teaching and curriculum development and administration.

If you think for one second that the average local Indonesian "teacher" (I use that term advisedly; the term "staff" is more accurate) is better than a respected online program, then you're sadly mistaken.

Imagine for a moment:

• no struggling through 3rd world traffic to get to a substandard and (probably) unsafe facility.
• no Indonesian"teachers" sitting in the staff room staring at their phone and eating gorengan as the students wait in the classroom.
• no students must search around the school for the "teacher" who then arrives 20-45 minutes late.
• no "teachers" who just don't show up for their assigned classes.
• no "teachers" who don't follow a syllabus nor have lesson plans nor materials.
• no "school" without a development plan.
• no untrained staff pretending to "advise" learners.
• no poorly written assessments that are often invalid and not marked fairly.
• no "teachers" who don't have a clue about classroom management.
• no low quality resources
• and the cost is probably less than what you're giving the "top" Indonesian school where they only pretend to speak English.
• Then remember that you won't be buying books & uniforms , and won't need to prepare food/snacks.

If you don't agree, then fine. Send your kids to a local school. It's not my business. I wish you and your family all the best.

This thread is about homeschooling options for those of us living in a developing country that is known for its poor education system. (Anyone can do a quick online search to see the dismal results.)

This forum is on the expatindo site, so one assumes that very few locals will be here searching for information...however, they may learn something too.

okay? I'll post more if/when I find more relevant info. Currently I'm trying to arrange to meet and speak with an intelligent person at our "City or Regency Education Office" regarding Article 6 from Permendikbud 129 of 2014.

 

[Balifrog]

This forum is on the expatindo site, so one assumes that very few locals will be here searching for information...however, they may learn something too.

If you are an expatriate, I.e. detached here by a company in your country, school costs should be part of the package.
And in an International school.

 

[jstar]

If you don't agree, then fine. Send your kids to a local school. It's not my business. I wish you and your family all the best.

just to throw in my 2 rupiah

It’s not that black or white; you have many choices besides a local (public) school and home schooling. It seems you are convinced all education here kind of sucks.

The ’private’ and national+ schools have often a very good name and many of their students continue their study, (often abroad) afterwards. My wife went to Santa Ursula, her brother to Canisius. But even a El Azhar or Tugas offers good education if you prefer an Islamic background. (We have a neighbor’s son going there, his English is impeccable.)

Obviously it does cost money.

 

[pantaiema]

That's wonderful. Thank you.

Who mentioned sending their children to an Indonesian uni?????? God forbid that we'd be in that position.


(gasp!) Are you saying that the Indonesian gov't doesn't mention an American qualification in that

You love hijacking threads and taking them in different directions. This a pattern that is easily recognized by anyone who frequents these fora.

Very good. Your "family members, relatives, and friends" are indebted to you.


(sigh) Little buttercup, I provided links for those assessments since homeschooling families may wish to take them as they prepare for higher level coursework back in the modern world.


I refer you to the reply which I gave above.


oh gawd... The link for the G.E.D. is given for those who wish to earn an equivalent to an American high school diploma. It is just one option. Is that clear?




Little skippy, why do you assume that homeschooling families plan on staying in the developing world, far away from decent roads, clean government, modern schools, etc. ???? Did you know that there are parts of the world that are NOT covered with plastic rubbish and where there are parks with green grass for children to play on ????

Still focusing on the G.E.D. ??? That was one option for home schooling families. Can you please understand that? It's an option.


Once again, you seem to be uninformed despite so much experience with world-class university admission processes.

There are many online schools and/or online curricula for parents to choose from. Some are expensive and some are very reasonable or free (e.g. Khan Academy). If you have the time, I strongly suggest that you spend 5 minutes looking at what is available.

Schools in Indonesia are in the bottom 20% of the world. "Top high schools" ??? Those must be the ones where only foreigners are doing the teaching and curriculum development and administration.

If you think for one second that the average local Indonesian "teacher" (I use that term advisedly; the term "staff" is more accurate) is better than a respected online program, then you're sadly mistaken.

Imagine for a moment:

• no struggling through 3rd world traffic to get to a substandard and (probably) unsafe facility.
• no Indonesian"teachers" sitting in the staff room staring at their phone and eating gorengan as the students wait in the classroom.
• no students must search around the school for the "teacher" who then arrives 20-45 minutes late.
• no "teachers" who just don't show up for their assigned classes.
• no "teachers" who don't follow a syllabus nor have lesson plans nor materials.
• no "school" without a development plan.
• no untrained staff pretending to "advise" learners.
• no poorly written assessments that are often invalid and not marked fairly.
• no "teachers" who don't have a clue about classroom management.
• no low quality resources
• and the cost is probably less than what you're giving the "top" Indonesian school where they only pretend to speak English.
• Then remember that you won't be buying books & uniforms , and won't need to prepare food/snacks.

If you don't agree, then fine. Send your kids to a local school. It's not my business. I wish you and your family all the best.

This thread is about homeschooling options for those of us living in a developing country that is known for its poor education system. (Anyone can do a quick online search to see the dismal results.)

This forum is on the expatindo site, so one assumes that very few locals will be here searching for information...however, they may learn something too.

okay? I'll post more if/when I find more relevant info. Currently I'm trying to arrange to meet and speak with an intelligent person at our "City or Regency Education Office" regarding Article 6 from Permendikbud 129 of 2014.

I fully believe anyone in this thread could see who is the first is referring to GED. IELTS. The clue is post #6 and now, when others share differing opinions, they’re accused of derailing the conversation.

Yes, this is the expatindo forum. But it includes many in mixed marriages, some with children living in Indonesia who plan to stay long-term. There are also ex-Indonesians and members of the Indonesian diaspora. I’ve read several posts in this forum where people mention sending their children to local schools in Indonesia.

That’s why my comment about the GED is very relevant. For mixed expats with school-age children, ex-Indonesians, or the diaspora living in Indonesia, the GED, or other form of home schooling may not be the best choice, attending a traditional top high school in Indonesia might be more beneficial. As mentioned earlier (see post #10), the GED is mostly useful in the U.S. It's not widely accepted for university admission in many developed countries, including Indonesia, and cannot be used for employment here.

Also as mentioned by 'Balifrog' in post #14 if they are expat getting secondment working in Indonesia, it is highly likely they will get allowance to allow their children to study at international schools in Indonesia. They also have the option to leave their children in their own countries where it is liklely the education in the state funded school is free. So why do they need home schooling ??

Now in the post #13 another insitution is mentioned. Keep in mind if people just want to find material to learn there are tons of them available internet, you tube, etc. MIT, IIT have even provided serial lectures directly on the lecture room intended for adult student. Literaly now you could easily find most of materials you need to learn on the internet. While it is useful how many could learn it on their own. Here we are talking here about children (not adult) in it is more challenging for the subject like STEM subjects. How many homeschooling graduates manage to get admission at top universities around the world in STEM Subjects ? In many countries in developed worrd they do not even recognise graduate from home schooling. The teacher, lecture will give you feedback, will be able to correct mistake, will be able to choose a suitable exercise crafted based on individual student needs, etc.

Regarding education in Indonesia, your view may be shaped by schools in small towns or rural areas. However, there’s a different tier of elite high schools in major cities not just private or national plus schools, but also top government-run institutions. 'jstar' named a few in post #15, and I’ll add more examples: in Jakarta, SMAN 8, SMAS Kanisius, SMAN 2, and SMA Kristen Penabur; in Surabaya, SMA Katolik St. Louis, SMAN 5, and SMAN 15. Graduates from these schools have gained admission to top universities worldwide, some self-funded, others on scholarships from Indonesian or foreign governments. Another strong example of their quality is how their students perform in competitions like the International Physics Olympiad.

International Physics Olympiad - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Some long-term expats in Indonesia may benefit from broadening their perspective it’s important not to generalise based only on feedback from your friends, those living in small towns or villages who might only have a limited horizon.

 

[serious_fun]

If you are an expatriate, I.e. detached here by a company in your country, school costs should be part of the package.
And in an International school.

Yes, many expats receive such employer benefits.

 

[serious_fun]

just to throw in my 2 rupiah

It’s not that black or white; you have many choices besides a local (public) school and home schooling. It seems you are convinced all education here kind of sucks.

The ’private’ and national+ schools have often a very good name and many of their students continue their study, (often abroad) afterwards. My wife went to Santa Ursula, her brother to Canisius. But even a El Azhar or Tugas offers good education if you prefer an Islamic background. (We have a neighbor’s son going there, his English is impeccable.)

Obviously it does cost money.

I'm happy to know that people on this forum can identify a few dozen strong schools. The population of Indo is over 285 million , with approx. 25% of those being children.* This country needs a hell of lot more good schools than those which are often priced out of reach for the average Mo. Every community has outliers, and every country has a few strong schools. Indonesia is known for weak schools and stagnant education over decades whether or not there are a handful of great schools.

BTW: all of my kids attend National Plus schools.

In any case, this thread is about homeschooling rather than being about the Indonesian school system no matter how closely related those issues may be. This is what happens to threads on this forum -- someone hijacks the thread and it goes off the rails.

* "52 million students, three million teachers, and 400 thousand schools" according to Statista.com

 

[serious_fun]

I fully believe anyone in this thread could see who is the first is referring to GED. IELTS. The clue is post #6 and now, when others share differing opinions, they’re accused of derailing the conversation.

who cares? why do you ALWAYS do this to threads on this forum? If someone wants info. re: the GED equivalency, then I've posted a link. End of story.

Yes, this is the expatindo forum. But it includes many in mixed marriages, some with children living in Indonesia who plan to blah blah. There are blah blah blah Indonesian diaspora. I’ve read several posts in this forum where blah blah blah local schools in Indonesia.

That’s why my comment about the GED is very relevant. For mixed expats with school-age children, ex-Indonesians, or the diaspora living in Indonesia, the GED, or other form of home schooling may not be the best choice, ...

dude, read the following sentence slowly and carefully: This thread is about homeschooling.

Regarding education in Indonesia, your view may be shaped by......

Some long-term expats in Indonesia may ...

One more time for those with limited intellect or poor comprehension skills: This thread is about homeschooling.

If you'd like to start a thread regarding the incredible schools that can be found in this country, then please do so. I promise you that I won't hijack the thread as you do with regularity...and as you've done with this thread.

Is that too difficult for you?

If I find any relevant links for those who are considering homeschooling in Indonesia I will post them. Those will include, but not be limited to, links about recognized assessments (e.g. equivalency exams), proof of enrollment and/or proof that one is following curriculum frameworks, record keeping, online resources that may be beneficial, etc., etc. I may also post about any experience(s) which I may have going through this process if we decide to go down this route.

I would appreciate it greatly if someone who has experienced homeschooling in Indonesia could post. I wouldn't be doing this if I could find something online, for example (Gawd forbid) a government site which guides parents/guardians through the process.

Homeschooling. That's what the thread is about.

 

[john madden]

Serious fun- I think you made a rod for your own back here by engaging. When old mate loads all his "helpful research" that's unrelated to your specific question, better you just say "not relevant to my specific question. Please desist." No guarantee that will stop him, but at least you won't be wasting time and effort on him.