Getting surat keterangan kehilangan kewarganegaraan

erhizzle

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Hello as an Ex Wni, my prospective employer asked me to get this letter in order to process the work permit -( not sure why).

When I called the embassy, they told me to use the SAKE portal so I did. I applied, made payment, uploaded and sent the docs, however today it says that “permohonan tidak sesuai menurut analisa pertimbangan hukum” on no 2.

When I tried to click the “view” button, it gives me error instead.

Anyone had this problem before? Also anyone ever tried to call their hotline? my email was never replied from previous queries.

Thank you.
 
Maybe DannyBoy can help answer this. I didnt do the online thing and long story short had to pay a lot of money through my agent to the kind, esteemed public servants at Departement Kehakiman to produce my letter. Danny i believe managed to do it at more reasonable cost.
 
The reason why they ask that is sometimes (or often) many "ex" indonesians still have an active status in the system, so they wanna make sure that gets deactivated.
 
My wife's NIK was still active even after out if the country 35 years. Got travel doc from consulate, high up family presented travel doc at immigration, was stamped, walked past customs, with uniformed family, and received her new, and current KTP and KK upon exiting the airport which was appled for before her return.

Many that have left the country are in fact still Indonesian citizens. I seen the UU but it was 10 years ago and I can't remember which one it was but I remember being directed to the part where it says to lose one's citizenship, it will be posted publicly. They just don't do that it seems. I doubt they do anything unless you inform them you have taken on a different citizenship. My wife never became a US citizen simply because we always had plans to return to Indonesia at retirement and knew that no matter what, not picking up a US citizenship would make that return easier.
 
Hello as an Ex Wni, my prospective employer asked me to get this letter in order to process the work permit -( not sure why).

When I called the embassy, they told me to use the SAKE portal so I did. I applied, made payment, uploaded and sent the docs, however today it says that “permohonan tidak sesuai menurut analisa pertimbangan hukum” on no 2.

When I tried to click the “view” button, it gives me error instead.

Anyone had this problem before? Also anyone ever tried to call their hotline? my email was never replied from previous queries.

Thank you.
Yeah, it is difficult that they didn't give any reason why they can't give the letter.

Are you using an agent for this process? Even with things like e-mail or Whatsapp, the best method when it comes to dealing with government agencies in Indonesia is unfortunately to still come in person or to have someone come in on your behalf.

I remember being directed to the part where it says to lose one's citizenship, it will be posted publicly. They just don't do that it seems.
It does become "public" in the sense that this Kehilangan Kewarganegaraan Letter, at least mine, comes with a copy of a Ministerial Decree that says I've lost my Indonesian citizenship so there is some form of an official record there. The decree was signed 4 years before I applied for my Kehilangan Kewarganegaraan letter and I wouldn't have been made aware of this decree had I not been processing letter. No one's ever contacted me to say "Your loss of citizenship letter is ready".

The system is far from perfect or fast or efficient though. Using the date the decree was signed as reference, it took two years and a few months after my disclosure to the Indonesian Consulate that I am no longer a citizen for it to be recorded in official records that I'm not a citizen.
 
Im doing it myself for now.. but if it gets too complicated, I will probably ask for help to my prospective employer (not sure if they can).

anyways my email was eventually replied and they gave me a whatsapp number for an officer who is very helpful. he told me I need to provide proof that I already surrendered my passport to the consulate. So i guess that is the next step.

nowhere in the documentation or in the portal it was asked. A bit frustrating since I could have started working on it earlier but expected since the system is somewhat new.
 
anyways my email was eventually replied and they gave me a whatsapp number for an officer who is very helpful. he told me I need to provide proof that I already surrendered my passport to the consulate. So i guess that is the next step.
How did you go getting the proof that you've surrendered your passport at the consulate?
 
I literally contacted the consulate and they gave me a letter to sign. They were surprised that I did it because everyone else secretly carrying dual passport. Nevertheless they said i did the right thing and appreciated it.
 
I literally contacted the consulate and they gave me a letter to sign. They were surprised that I did it because everyone else secretly carrying dual passport. Nevertheless they said i did the right thing and appreciated it.
That's awesome. Things have improved since nearly 10 years ago when what they did was scowl as they take the Indo passport (or at least that's what they did in Sydney) much less give me anything to sign. Probably the sight of someone not being a WNI anymore is more common.

Hope it will be smooth sailing from here and let's hope things turn out for the best for those of us who have disclosed our citizenship status.
 
Hello as an Ex Wni, my prospective employer asked me to get this letter in order to process the work permit -( not sure why).

When I called the embassy, they told me to use the SAKE portal so I did. I applied, made payment, uploaded and sent the docs, however today it says that “permohonan tidak sesuai menurut analisa pertimbangan hukum” on no 2.

When I tried to click the “view” button, it gives me error instead.

Anyone had this problem before? Also anyone ever tried to call their hotline? my email was never replied from previous queries.

Thank you.
Hi Erhizzle,

have you tried following this guideline?

 
Yes, the declaration from the overseas consulate that you have surrendered your passport is the most important letter for this application. The other thing that I got caught up before is where to submit the physical documents. You are supposed to hand it in to the AHU cikini office rather than the one in Rasuna Said.
 
Hello as an Ex Wni, my prospective employer asked me to get this letter in order to process the work permit -( not sure why).

When I called the embassy, they told me to use the SAKE portal so I did. I applied, made payment, uploaded and sent the docs, however today it says that “permohonan tidak sesuai menurut analisa pertimbangan hukum” on no 2.

When I tried to click the “view” button, it gives me error instead.

Anyone had this problem before? Also anyone ever tried to call their hotline? my email was never replied from previous queries.

Thank you.

I wonder is this required as part of working in Indonesia ??
 
I wonder is this required as part of working in Indonesia ??

I have no ways to confirm but apparently my employer requires it and they probably know better than me. my understanding from the other commenters is it is required to get the SKTT which will be eventually needed but not sure
 
I have no ways to confirm but apparently my employer requires it and they probably know better than me. my understanding from the other commenters is it is required to get the SKTT which will be eventually needed but not sure
Dear Erhizzle, Have you already managed your Surat Keterangan Kehilangan Kewarganegaraan via SAKE AHU ? I am very curious. I hope you have already has it without any problem anymore. I have surrenderd my passport a few years ago by the embassy. I got Surat Tanda Terima penyerahan paspor RI. This letter that we need right ? When I visit Indonesia in the future, I will start my process to get that Surat Keterangan Kehilangan Kewarganegaraan because all the documents has to be legalised by Indonesian notaris. I think, we will need this surat if we still have something to do in Indonesia like to arrange Surat Keterangan Waris, or SKTT etc.
 
Dear Erhizzle, Have you already managed your Surat Keterangan Kehilangan Kewarganegaraan via SAKE AHU ? I am very curious. I hope you have already has it without any problem anymore. I have surrenderd my passport a few years ago by the embassy. I got Surat Tanda Terima penyerahan paspor RI. This letter that we need right ? When I visit Indonesia in the future, I will start my process to get that Surat Keterangan Kehilangan Kewarganegaraan because all the documents has to be legalised by Indonesian notaris. I think, we will need this surat if we still have something to do in Indonesia like to arrange Surat Keterangan Waris, or SKTT etc.
it is still in process. it is looking good however. the status indicator on the portal is all green.
yes thats the letter I used and they accepted it.
for notary legalization, due to covid i was told that some notaries are willing to produce the notarized letter with video call instead of having to see the real copy (might save you a trip to indo). probably works best is if it is someone your family already have relationship with.
 
it is still in process. it is looking good however. the status indicator on the portal is all green.
yes thats the letter I used and they accepted it.
for notary legalization, due to covid i was told that some notaries are willing to produce the notarized letter with video call instead of having to see the real copy (might save you a trip to indo). probably works best is if it is someone your family already have relationship with.
just an update. i got the letter literally just now.
 
it is still in process. it is looking good however. the status indicator on the portal is all green.
yes thats the letter I used and they accepted it.
for notary legalization, due to covid i was told that some notaries are willing to produce the notarized letter with video call instead of having to see the real copy (might save you a trip to indo). probably works best is if it is someone your family already have relationship with.
Hi Erhizzle, Congratz that you finally got the letter ! I am very happy for you. And thank you for your tips I really appreciate it.

I have some questions, I hope you don't mind. Because I am very insecure to manage it my self.

My question is : The surat tanda terima paspor RI (legalized with indonesian notary) is that enough to fill the requirement UPLOAD DOCUMENT no 2 : foto kopi paspor RI, surat yg bersifat paspor atau surat lain yg membuktikan bahwa pemohon adalah WNI.

Since I can not provide legalized last RI passport because I have only the copy of the passport (I have surrendered the passport by embassy).

Thank you.
 
Hi Erhizzle, Congratz that you finally got the letter ! I am very happy for you. And thank you for your tips I really appreciate it.

I have some questions, I hope you don't mind. Because I am very insecure to manage it my self.

My question is : The surat tanda terima paspor RI (legalized with indonesian notary) is that enough to fill the requirement UPLOAD DOCUMENT no 2 : foto kopi paspor RI, surat yg bersifat paspor atau surat lain yg membuktikan bahwa pemohon adalah WNI.

Since I can not provide legalized last RI passport because I have only the copy of the passport (I have surrendered the passport by embassy).

Thank you.
oh when i applied the first time i still had my old passport so i didnt have that issue. i would suggest to email to their customer service email. when i did ask, they gave me a whatsapp number of a very helpful officer.
 

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