Gas cylinder safety

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Just heard that our former backyard neighbor (we moved 6 houses down the street) in our Bandung complex, had their green gas cylinder explode while using it, yesterday. The poor lady had burns over 60% of her body, and had been operated on. The pictures of the house look pretty dire.

I know I’ve heard of many problems with these smaller cylinders, especially places that tried to put the gas from these, into the non-subsidized bottles, resulting in huge explosions.
 

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Cylinders of flammable gas are no joke. Leakage often is from faulty or poorly installed pressure regulators.
 

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I hate using gas cannisters, but what we did was to drill a hole thru the kitchen wall to put the gas pipe through, I won't have them in the house.
The shower room at the back has a gas water heater and we made a similar set up for that too- the cannister is also outside.
My brother in law made a box to cover it & keep it out of direct sunlight & so far so good, not had any problems.
I'd suggest anyone who can do this do so, I am aware that not everyone has the options I have though.
 

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Good idea to put outside. Unlike natural gas, LPG is heavier than air. Make sure you put the cylinder in area with good air circulation, not in confined small space. If the cylinder leakage, the gas never reach it's LEL (lower explosive limit).

The other problem with green cylinder is very poor handling.due to its small size and larger number distribution, I have often seen people throw and catch this cylinder recklessly. Not properly arranged during transportation or storage.
This might damage the collar which protect the valve and increase the material fatigue.
Lack of regular inspection is also another issue.
 

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The other problem with green cylinder is very poor handling.due to its small size and larger number distribution, I have often seen people throw and catch this cylinder recklessly.
I have seen some absolutely terrifying loading and unloading of these; literally throwing them (full) into a pile on the side of the road, and similarly loading them (mostly empty) by literally throwing them up into a truck, landing on the others.
 

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There seems to be a bit of an issue with the red rubber seals as well. Several had to replace some on bottles coming from the store.

I always handle those things with extreme apprehension.
 

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Pretty happy that my building doesn’t allow gas, never liked those things.
 

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I hate using gas cannisters, but what we did was to drill a hole thru the kitchen wall to put the gas pipe through...
Same here; gas canisters are in a steel cage along the outside wall to the kitchen. We use the best regulators we can find and have a sack of new rubber washers, to replace any that exhibit the slightest deformity. So far, so good.
 

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Pretty happy that my building doesn’t allow gas, never liked those things.
I understand your perspective, but when I visit my parents' and use their electric range, it takes painfully long to warm up. I could be eating my scrambled eggs off the gas stove in just the time it takes to be ready to start cooking them on an electric one.
 

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I understand your perspective, but when I visit my parents' and use their electric range, it takes painfully long to warm up. I could be eating my scrambled eggs off the gas stove in just the time it takes to be ready to start cooking them on an electric one.
Induction is the way to go if you choose electric, and have the power.

It takes a short to get used to it, but once you get the grip of it you can cook nearly as "reactive" as with gas. Had them in my place in HKG, and they are great.
 

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I understand your perspective, but when I visit my parents' and use their electric range, it takes painfully long to warm up. I could be eating my scrambled eggs off the gas stove in just the time it takes to be ready to start cooking them on an electric one.
Never had any issues with my induction plates, as fast if not faster than cooking with gas.
 

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Never had any issues with my induction plates, as fast if not faster than cooking with gas.
useless in a powercut tho :) (at least for me, as I have no back up gennie.)
 

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This lady just died in the hospital after almost 3 weeks. The neighborhood had gotten together and raised over 20jt to help with her care.
 

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Having the cylinder outside is the best way to go and in an area that has air flow. LPG is heavier than air so if the cylinder sits in a corner with no air flow, or worse in a separate container of some sort then it just gathers until there is a pool that can be ignited by any spark. People using the cylinders in boats are at particular risk as the boats are often tapered towards the bottom and it is not uncommon see explosions resulting from this kind of storage.

Horrible result for that poor family.
 

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Never had any issues with my induction plates, as fast if not faster than cooking with gas.
Indonesian houses often tend to have low wattage incoming from PLN; how high of wattage to induction plate stoves require?
 

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Indonesian houses often tend to have low wattage incoming from PLN; how high of wattage to induction plate stoves require?
Most are about 2000 watt at full power. Even the houses that have enough 3000-4000 watt supply likely have that much because they have multiple AC they run frequently. It would be quite the annoyance to walk around turning off AC when you want to use your cook top.
 

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Our house has 2.2 kw in Bandung, with no AC. Induction cooking isn’t practical for most Indonesian households. I often see these secondhand for sale on Facebook groups. People buy them at a show, only to find out they don’t work well in their homes.
 

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