Yes, spouse means married, and this only applies to being married to an Indonesian citizen, on their KK (kartu keluarga, family card). But if you were married to an Indonesian citizen you likely would not be pursuing the retirement visa, just get the spouse visa.Thank you very much. Does spouse in this context mean that you are married? And what does KK mean?
that seems to be incorrect as I had a discussion with one of the expatindo members on fb regarding, his situation; 70 years old, not working (but worked in the past in Indonesia), spouse sponsored kitap, separate KK, went to bpjs with his wife, pp and kitap and was issued a bpjs card a few days later.It is not possible to be covered by BPJS while being on retirement KITAP. BPJS does not accept applications from foreigners unless they are employed. Another loophole would be if you are a foreigner on KITAP on Indonesian spouse's KK.
to be on your Indonesian spouses KK, not possible when you are still on your 5 year KITAP, once you renew indefinitely I think it is possible.It is not possible to be covered by BPJS while being on retirement KITAP. BPJS does not accept applications from foreigners unless they are employed. Another loophole would be if you are a foreigner on KITAP on Indonesian spouse's KK.
to be on your Indonesian spouses KK, not possible when you are still on your 5 years KITAP, once you renew indefinitely I think it is possible.
In my case as orang asing with Indonesian spouse; we verified today with sudin Jakarta Barat, and what I have put in Bold in your comment we believe is correct, or have a joint KK which is also mentioned in your comment.I have been on my spouse's KK from the first KITAP.
In Jakarta foreigners with separate KKs from their spouses could not get BPJS insurance recently. The mentioned forum member probably got his BPJS earlier. He is now in the database and he only needs to pay his dues.
If you have read BPJS regulations, BPJS health is explicitly allowed and obligatory only for foreigners that work for more than 6 months. It is also allowed for dependants but does not mention dependant locals or foreigners although, and here foreigners have the opportunity to get it based on foreign spouses, and the proof of dependency is a joint KK.
If somebody has a recent experience will be good to hear.
Interesting comments from you about the other posts on this topic, lecturing others and ranting about hear say while you believe that one cannot be added to their spoused KK, which the officials already told us on the phone that you can. Anything useful you can add to the discussion would be appreciated, tx.people love to pass along hearsay. What was mentioned above was that you could get BPJS if you are spouse sponsored. Then someone comes along and says, wrong, you must be on a spouse sponsored KITAP. Geesh, read.
Now I am seeing all this you must have a combined KK. I have an individual KK, KITAP, and BPJS. Where are people learning that KITAP holders are on their spouses KK. I believe you can not be unless you become a citizen. Maybe just that normal Cat Sip hasn't any clues to what laws actually say.
Now I am seeing all this you must have a combined KK. I have an individual KK, KITAP, and BPJS. Where are people learning that KITAP holders are on their spouses KK. I believe you can not be unless you become a citizen. Maybe just that normal Cat Sip hasn't any clues to what laws actually say.
Show us something that someone on Spouse sponsored KITAP should be added to the WNI KK.Interesting comments from you about the other posts on this topic, lecturing others and ranting about hear say while you believe that one cannot be added to their spoused KK, which the officials already told us on the phone that you can. Anything useful you can add to the discussion would be appreciated, tx.
I never have gotten a run around and never paid a single rupiah that wasn't required by law. Never used an agent and I have had Sosbuds, Kitas, and Kitaps.The thing is, I go into a door having the laws in hand if needed. It has always been advised in these forums and the former one by those that stay current with Indonesian laws to know what the hell you are doing when you walk into a door. I have received some miss information and some very creative information but sorry, many government officials are not up on the laws they are supposed to be working with in. Not all of course, I have great Immigration personnel where I am located. Well. all but one that thinks foreigners are a quick payoff. Problem is, he thinks that because he has benefited from others by it. If you don't go in knowing the current laws and procedures, of course you will just take their word for it. I have also had the hands out and you need something you really don't but it will cost you government officials. That actually led to calling the Attorney Generals Office and a Power Point Presentation submitted to high ups that cause the head to be fired and three other reassigned where they never come in contact with people. No, best to have some clue.We are not assuming anything, and neither do we go with hearsay, we verify with officials. And as a contrast to your negative views of local officials, we don't share that view. Examples; my wife and I have processed my kitas and my current kitap (up for renewal next year) by ourselves without any issues and the utmost cooperation from the officials with crystal clear information provided in the most friendly way. Legalising documents over the years? No issues at all! My guess is that a lot depends with what kind of attitude you approach the officials, if your attitude sucks they have every right to let you run around in circles!
By the way fp17, we will certainly do whatever is good for our family as it has worked great for us so far. Your last comment in particular, telling me what I should or should not do, is just background noise, which certainly does not require to be addressed further.By the way Hbm. You just go and do whatever you feel is good for you. Frankly, I really don't care if you do things right or wrong. Just don't tell everyone to just up and take government officials at their word.