America Producing Dumber College Students

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I was going to add this to another thread where Islamic conversion is mentioned but decided it needs it's own thread.

I'm sure all have seen the protest taking place on US higher education institutions in support of Palestine and in some groups, Hamas. All I can do is shake by head in disbelief. Personally, protesting is fine as long as it's peaceful. Attacking Jewish students as if they have any say in what's happening in Gaza is not peaceful. Interrupting graduation cerimoneys is not peaceful. Taking over buildings and vandalizing them is not peaceful. Personally I doubt it the majority of them have a clue to what Palestine is and what is actually happening there. For some reason they want to blame all Jews. Let's face it, it isn't the Jews is whole destroying Gaza and it's residents, it is Netanyahu. The guy leading the total destruction of Gaza based on a bloody attack by Hamas that he let happen after he was warned about it. They want to blame Biden because the US is an Israel ally and supports them. They ignore that Biden has condemned most of what Netanyahu has done. They ignore the fact that even if you are an ally, you have no say in what another nation decides to do. Dumb.

But no, these protesters want to blame and physically attack all Jews. It seems to me that there may be some radical Muslims behind these protest but they easily influenced many students to join with them. Dumb.

This should not be a Palestine vs Jews argument. It should all be laid upon Netanyahu and Hamas. Those are who should be condemned, not the individual residents or their religions.

Still, the students. The really dumb students. Their protest were broke up. What did they really expect. They did nothing to gain any respect from the powers that be. They insisted the institutions remove any investments in Israel stocks, businesses, and any one that does invest in those. Truth be told but no one listening, very little is invested in Israel. Now these students are demanding that since they missed final exams because they were busy mass protesting, the schools should automatically pass each and every student. Those still protesting are demanding schools supply them with food and personal items. They proclaim it is the schools responsibility. Dumb.

Now you have some that claim they are American Muslims and are on a hunger strike until Gaza is safe and other nonsense things. Look around the world to the Islamic and Muslim majority nations. Anyone going on hunger strikes? No, they collect money, supply medical personnel, medical supplies, and humanitarian goods. They are joined by many other nations supplying humanitarian goods. But, we will go on a hunger strike. Dumb

I have seen the Islamic led news services jump on the videos that are showing US college students collecting together and being converted to Islam now. They don't have a clue to what Islam is. I especially laugh at the gay or trans groups supporting Palestine and some of them even converted. No clue. Dumb

What we have is higher education institutions with dumb, uninformed and don't care to be students. I would never hire one of those protesters. I hope the schools deny them credits or expel them completely. Let the hunger strikers starve.
 
I was going to add this to another thread where Islamic conversion is mentioned but decided it needs it's own thread.

I'm sure all have seen the protest taking place on US higher education institutions in support of Palestine and in some groups, Hamas. All I can do is shake by head in disbelief. Personally, protesting is fine as long as it's peaceful. Attacking Jewish students as if they have any say in what's happening in Gaza is not peaceful. Interrupting graduation cerimoneys is not peaceful. Taking over buildings and vandalizing them is not peaceful. Personally I doubt it the majority of them have a clue to what Palestine is and what is actually happening there. For some reason they want to blame all Jews. Let's face it, it isn't the Jews is whole destroying Gaza and it's residents, it is Netanyahu. The guy leading the total destruction of Gaza based on a bloody attack by Hamas that he let happen after he was warned about it. They want to blame Biden because the US is an Israel ally and supports them. They ignore that Biden has condemned most of what Netanyahu has done. They ignore the fact that even if you are an ally, you have no say in what another nation decides to do. Dumb.

But no, these protesters want to blame and physically attack all Jews. It seems to me that there may be some radical Muslims behind these protest but they easily influenced many students to join with them. Dumb.

This should not be a Palestine vs Jews argument. It should all be laid upon Netanyahu and Hamas. Those are who should be condemned, not the individual residents or their religions.

Still, the students. The really dumb students. Their protest were broke up. What did they really expect. They did nothing to gain any respect from the powers that be. They insisted the institutions remove any investments in Israel stocks, businesses, and any one that does invest in those. Truth be told but no one listening, very little is invested in Israel. Now these students are demanding that since they missed final exams because they were busy mass protesting, the schools should automatically pass each and every student. Those still protesting are demanding schools supply them with food and personal items. They proclaim it is the schools responsibility. Dumb.

Now you have some that claim they are American Muslims and are on a hunger strike until Gaza is safe and other nonsense things. Look around the world to the Islamic and Muslim majority nations. Anyone going on hunger strikes? No, they collect money, supply medical personnel, medical supplies, and humanitarian goods. They are joined by many other nations supplying humanitarian goods. But, we will go on a hunger strike. Dumb

I have seen the Islamic led news services jump on the videos that are showing US college students collecting together and being converted to Islam now. They don't have a clue to what Islam is. I especially laugh at the gay or trans groups supporting Palestine and some of them even converted. No clue. Dumb

What we have is higher education institutions with dumb, uninformed and don't care to be students. I would never hire one of those protesters. I hope the schools deny them credits or expel them completely. Let the hunger strikers starve.
Dumb indeed. To sum it all up .. it's Gen-Z generation.

Plus the AI of FB, IG .. that feeds them Hamas propaganda.
 
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I was going to add this to another thread where Islamic conversion is mentioned but decided it needs it's own thread.

I'm sure all have seen the protest taking place on US higher education institutions in support of Palestine and in some groups, Hamas. All I can do is shake by head in disbelief. Personally, protesting is fine as long as it's peaceful. Attacking Jewish students as if they have any say in what's happening in Gaza is not peaceful. Interrupting graduation cerimoneys is not peaceful. Taking over buildings and vandalizing them is not peaceful. Personally I doubt it the majority of them have a clue to what Palestine is and what is actually happening there. For some reason they want to blame all Jews. Let's face it, it isn't the Jews is whole destroying Gaza and it's residents, it is Netanyahu. The guy leading the total destruction of Gaza based on a bloody attack by Hamas that he let happen after he was warned about it. They want to blame Biden because the US is an Israel ally and supports them. They ignore that Biden has condemned most of what Netanyahu has done. They ignore the fact that even if you are an ally, you have no say in what another nation decides to do. Dumb.

But no, these protesters want to blame and physically attack all Jews. It seems to me that there may be some radical Muslims behind these protest but they easily influenced many students to join with them. Dumb.

This should not be a Palestine vs Jews argument. It should all be laid upon Netanyahu and Hamas. Those are who should be condemned, not the individual residents or their religions.

Still, the students. The really dumb students. Their protest were broke up. What did they really expect. They did nothing to gain any respect from the powers that be. They insisted the institutions remove any investments in Israel stocks, businesses, and any one that does invest in those. Truth be told but no one listening, very little is invested in Israel. Now these students are demanding that since they missed final exams because they were busy mass protesting, the schools should automatically pass each and every student. Those still protesting are demanding schools supply them with food and personal items. They proclaim it is the schools responsibility. Dumb.

Now you have some that claim they are American Muslims and are on a hunger strike until Gaza is safe and other nonsense things. Look around the world to the Islamic and Muslim majority nations. Anyone going on hunger strikes? No, they collect money, supply medical personnel, medical supplies, and humanitarian goods. They are joined by many other nations supplying humanitarian goods. But, we will go on a hunger strike. Dumb

I have seen the Islamic led news services jump on the videos that are showing US college students collecting together and being converted to Islam now. They don't have a clue to what Islam is. I especially laugh at the gay or trans groups supporting Palestine and some of them even converted. No clue. Dumb

What we have is higher education institutions with dumb, uninformed and don't care to be students. I would never hire one of those protesters. I hope the schools deny them credits or expel them completely. Let the hunger strikers starve.
I of course don't know your sources of information but there's a lot in your message which is debatable or just plain wrong. You're right though about stupidity since that's universal.
You commented several times that the protesters are attacking Jews in general. If and when that happens it's of course very wrong but in fact the huge majority of protesters haven't done that. Actually a major share of the organizers and protesters are Jewish themselves.
While Biden has rather meekly condemned some of the IDF's actions he's also told the world that he stands behind Israel without limits (which cancels any criticism) and has expedited all the war material the IDF has asked for and more.
 
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The dumb part is supporting either side.
Hamas started a bloodbath that killed a lot of innocent Israeli civilians
Israel started a bigger bloodbath that killed a lot of innocent Palestinian civilians

I can't think of a reason to support either bunch of extremists.
 
The dumb part is supporting either side.
Hamas started a bloodbath that killed a lot of innocent Israeli civilians
Israel started a bigger bloodbath that killed a lot of innocent Palestinian civilians

I can't think of a reason to support either bunch of extremists.
Mmmm, 1600 deaths vs 35000 ......

And the West supports and arms the executioners of the 35000 and claims it loud and clear.

If the West stoppped ALL support to Israel, implsew heavy sanctions, seized Israeli property, etc... the thing would be quickly over.
 
It's the big problem in the west, teaching ideologies instead iof real knowledge or tackling real life realities or whatever you wanna call it.
Schools and colleges are undermined by a lot of BS these days and the quality surely won't get better this way.

(Ps that'd just one of the problems)
 
Actually a major share of the organizers and protesters are Jewish themselves.
While Biden has rather meekly condemned some of the IDF's actions he's also told the world that he stands behind Israel without limits (which cancels any criticism) and has expedited all the war material the IDF has asked for and more.
Might be in the US. But in many countries In Europe especailly in the UK London, it is not the case really ...
In the UK there are so many hate preachers that could live freely radicalising the new generation. They have too much time to preach as they mainly rely on the social benefit paid by the taxpayers.
 
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The dumb part is supporting either side.
Hamas started a bloodbath that killed a lot of innocent Israeli civilians
Israel started a bigger bloodbath that killed a lot of innocent Palestinian civilians

I can't think of a reason to support either bunch of extremists.
You separate Hamas from Palestine as it should be even though Hamas governs Gaza, so why be all in on Israel when it is their government leaders who are calling the shots?
 
While Biden has rather meekly condemned some of the IDF's actions he's also told the world that he stands behind Israel without limits (which cancels any criticism) and has expedited all the war material the IDF has asked for and more.
Biden is just another politician, just like so many of them. Expressing concerns but in the meanwhile shipping loads of weapons to allow the disaster to continue.
 
Dumb indeed. To sum it all up .. it's Gen-Z generation.

Plus the AI of FB, IG .. that feeds them Hamas propaganda.
Today in newspapers .. about the students protests in Amsterdam the other day, that ended in voilence too.

In Iran propaganda news .. they use the pictures to show how those protesters were treated by police forces.
 

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Today in newspapers .. about the students protests in Amsterdam the other day, that ended in voilence too.

Propaganda in Iran news .. how those protesters are treated by police forces.

It is partly because allowing the hate preachers to come and live in the countries. Vast majority of these hate preachers are benefit seekers depending on the taxpayers money to support the life of entire family, so they have so much time to spread their sick beliefs to young generation and other desperate people, justifying, urging killing people, to commit suicide bomb, atrocity.
There are tons of examples, this is just a few examples that compile a few of them. Start in mark 07:32 min.

Hopefully Geert Widers could sort out his coalition in the NL and will do something to reduce radicalisation. And about what happen in Gaza strip right now, do not forget who started this ??.
 
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about what happen in Gaza strip right now, do not forget who started this ??.
Who actually started it goes back a ways and the causes and blame are debatable. As for the current situation it looks like Hamas started the bloodshed. Then again, blame also lays with the one that ignored the intelegence of said attack looking as if he welcomed it not realizing the great loss that would come of it but still got to proceed to try an eliminate all Palestinians.
 
Mmmm, 1600 deaths vs 35000 ......

And the West supports and arms the executioners of the 35000 and claims it loud and clear.

If the West stoppped ALL support to Israel, implsew heavy sanctions, seized Israeli property, etc... the thing would be quickly over.
Inside US think tanks there may be some tut tutting about the collateral damage but the fundamental issues are that Israel has nuclear weapons and is seen as important hedge against all those surrounding Islamic countries which would be quite happy if both Israel and the US were wiped off the map. In 2023 the US arms industry was said to have earned US$90billion and is a huge supplier of jobs. And there is the military which also provides employment to just under 3 million people many of whom might otherwise never find work. You can imagine the intense lobbying that relates to the interests of the military and arms industry.
 
It is partly because allowing the hate preachers to come and live in the countries. Vast majority of these hate preachers are benefit seekers depending on the taxpayers money to support the life of entire family, so they have so much time to spread their sick beliefs to young generation and other desperate people, justifying, urging killing people, to commit suicide bomb, atrocity.
There are tons of examples, this is just a few examples that compile a few of them. Start in mark 07:32 min.

Hopefully Geert Widers could sort out his coalition in the NL and will do something to reduce radicalisation. And about what happen in Gaza strip right now, do not forget who started this ??.
What's happening in Gaza now was started in 1948 by Israel's unilateral declaration of independence and subsequent ethnic cleansing with foundations even before that with the influx of Zionist settlers in the early 20th century. It might be good to read history rather than neocon or other propaganda.
 
What's happening in Gaza now was started in 1948 by Israel's unilateral declaration of independence and subsequent ethnic cleansing or even before that with the influx of Zionist settlers in the early 20th century. It might be good to read history rather than neocon or other propaganda.

I am referring to the CURRENT CONFLICT in Gaza; almost everybody knows who started this bloodshed. Also, HAMAS, who started this current conflict, has been marked as a terrorist organization by many countries. It is allegedly that HAMAS have been using hospitals, using ordinary civilian as human shields.

People might want to trace it back to 1948, and they are certainly entitled to their own opinion, their own essay. But that's not what I'm focusing on in my previous post.

It's also worth noting that this isn't an exact science. If it were, 1+1=2; everybody knows it. Differentiating Rp10k vs Rp100k, even an illiterate grandma knows the difference.

I am not aware of anyone in this forum being an expert in Middle East conflict, politics, or history. Debating this subject back to 1948 in this forum, where it is very difficult to get authoritative, expert sources; it will become an unproductive debate, a dialogue of the deaf.
 
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I am referring to the CURRENT CONFLICT in Gaza; almost everybody knows who started this bloodshed. Also, HAMAS, who started this current conflict, has been marked as a terrorist organization by many countries. It is allegedly that HAMAS have been using hospitals, using ordinary civilian as human shields.

People might want to trace it back to 1948, and they are certainly entitled to their own opinion, their own essay. But that's not what I'm focusing on in my previous post.

It's also worth noting that this isn't an exact science. If it were, 1+1=2; everybody knows it. Differentiating Rp10k vs Rp100k, even an illiterate grandma knows the difference.

I am not aware of anyone in this forum being an expert in Middle East conflict, politics, or history. Debating this subject back to 1948 in this forum, where it is very difficult to get authoritative, expert sources; it will become an unproductive debate, a dialogue of the deaf.
Yes it's very difficult to deny culpability for your team when there are so many facts getting in the way. It must be really frustrating.
 
Inside US think tanks there may be some tut tutting about the collateral damage but the fundamental issues are that Israel has nuclear weapons and is seen as important hedge against all those surrounding Islamic countries which would be quite happy if both Israel and the US were wiped off the map. In 2023 the US arms industry was said to have earned US$90billion and is a huge supplier of jobs. And there is the military which also provides employment to just under 3 million people many of whom might otherwise never find work. You can imagine the intense lobbying that relates to the interests of the military and arms industry.
Killing people is not a very good line of work! You make it sound like it's just a business! What about the innocent Men, Women, and Children ruthlessly slaughtered? I would n't feel good coming home at night knowing that's what I did for Work!
Your rational about money and jobs, ignores this Fact!
 

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