Advice Sought: Paternity Test for Our Illegitimate Baby

ajb10

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Dear all,

Our son will be illegitimate at birth as his Indonesian mother and I have yet to marry. According to Indonesian law, only his mother will appear on the birth certificate. I will therefore need to do a paternity test to confirm the baby has a British father for him to become a British citizen as well as his Indonesian nationality. I would want to do the same for Germany as I have dual nationality.

I would be grateful to hear advice from anyone who has been in this position.
Did you appear on your child's UK or German birth certificate? Did DNA testing take place in Indonesia or in UK/Germany? How long was the process? Anything I should know as I begin this process.

Many thanks,

Alexander
 

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Some countries don’t require a dna test, normally. I know the US doesn’t.

There is also a method of going through the courts to get the fathers name added to the birth certificate. I’ve heard of wealthy guys doing it, but don’t know the details or costs of getting it done.
 

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Are you in Jakarta? I'd assume quite a few clinics or hospitals can advise you or refer you for a DNA test. Mouth swaps, probably 5-10 Juta and a 2 week wait for results.
 

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Although not required, DNA tests are becoming the standard for establishing paternity for citizenship. It cuts down on fraud and child trafficking. Basically government officials give the run around for other forms of verification, but DNA goes right through.



Under the UK government guidance re-registering the birth certificate to reflect the father's name can be an indication of fraud.

"You must pay particular attention to birth certificates submitted by applicants which show there was a re-registration, as this can be an indication of fraud. " - previous link

The process is the DNA must be tested by a lab certified by the government that the person is trying to get citizenship from. The common process is the lab sends a testing kit to a certified medical professional in the foreign country. A doctor, nurse, or other qualified professional takes the DNA with the enclosed swab. The medical attendant then checks the identification and usually has to fill out/sign an affidavit of the identities of the individuals and send it with the DNA sample to the lab in the country that is looking to grant citizenship.

You can read more about the UK standards and procedures on testing on pages 12-13 of the link provided.
 

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I had an American acquaintance with the same situation. Instead of registering the marriage as I recommended. He refused because of wanting to get a prenup / postnup but was too cheap to spend the $500 at that time before the baby was born. After going around in curcles for almost a year he eventually had to get DNA tests for him and the baby which cost about $1000 total. Penny wise, pound foolish he was.
 

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you could check DNA Paternity test in Eijkmann Institute for biomoleculer it is own by goverment . it is located besides RSCM Kencana Hospital.all the private hospitals here send those specimen to eijkmann sometimes the lab also got specimen from penang .
so you could directly go there to get ur son dna checked.
 

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Thanks everyone for your posts. In the end, the DNA testing was not necessary as long as both parents acknowledge the name of the father on documents.
 

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If your kid gets foreign citizenship before you two getting married and legally recognizing the kid as own and recording that in the Indonesian birth certificate, he will lose the Indonesian citizenship straight away.
 

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If your kid gets foreign citizenship before you two getting married and legally recognizing the kid as own and recording that in the Indonesian birth certificate, he will lose the Indonesian citizenship straight away.
If the child is born out of wedlock, to an Indonesian female, it will show her as the only parent on the Indonesian birth certificate.
 

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If the child is born out of wedlock, to an Indonesian female, it will show her as the only parent on the Indonesian birth certificate.
If the child is born out of wedlock, it will have the mother's name only on the birth certificate and only Indonesian citizenship assigned at birth. If the foreign father of that child gets his citizenship for this Indonesian kid, the Indonesian kid will lose automatically Indonesian citizenship as Indonesians are not allowed to have multiple citizenships - illegitimate kids have no right to double citizenship.

There is a procedure of recognizing such a kid and putting the father's name on the Indonesian birth certificate, in a form of an official record and note on the back of the birth certificate.
 

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If the foreign father of that child gets his citizenship for this Indonesian kid, the Indonesian kid will lose automatically Indonesian citizenship as Indonesians are not allowed to have multiple citizenships - illegitimate kids have no right to double citizenship.

Are you sure about that? I thought Indonesian children are allowed to be dual citizens until age 21 when they must choose one or the other.
 

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Are you sure about that? I thought Indonesian children are allowed to be dual citizens until age 21 when they must choose one or the other.
If they are legitimate children from a recognized marriage between a foreign citizen and an Indonesian citizen, yes they can be dual citizens until 21. If they are illegitimate, in sense of Indonesian regulations-meaning the father is "unknown", they are not.
 

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If they are legitimate children from a recognized marriage between a foreign citizen and an Indonesian citizen, yes they can be dual citizens until 21. If they are illegitimate, in sense of Indonesian regulations-meaning the father is "unknown", they are not.
Can you post the legal reference for that? Never heard that one before. I know a number of out of wedlock parents in Indonesia, where the kids have dual citizenship.
 

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Can you post the legal reference for that? Never heard that one before. I know a number of out of wedlock parents in Indonesia, where the kids have dual citizenship.
The reference is the Law on citizenship. If the Birth certificate states that there is no father, there is no legal base for granting double citizenship-the father is unknown in the eyes of Indonesian regulations. All double citizens have to have a double citizenship certificate/affidavit.

It does not mean that these kids do not have 2 passports, but that does not make them double citizens.
 

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