A new era of world wide poverty

[centurion]

"we're going to need a bigger airport"

Heard some rumors from the government about using wormholes for mass transport. Also, several ministers will be replaced with AI.

 

[harryopal1]

I have an idea!!

Hey. this would be perfect for the vacuum tube transport method with so many little people fitting into the one capsule.

 

[Samoerai]

I just heard from a civil enginering guy that the President and 5 of his ministers will move out to IKN next year. But ... maybe the new President .. don't want ... Oeps

 

[Samoerai]

Just watched a video on Youtube "Dark side of Indonesia" .. there are a lot of these videos btw about different countries like Vietnam, Japan, Brazil ..

In the video it also mentioned that Jakarta is the most vulnerable city due to climate change...that the government decided to move the city to another island.

 

[Samoerai]

Jakarta lies on soft layers of sand and clay. If you pump out more groundwater than naturally flows in, the water pressure will decrease and the clay layers in particular will collapse. Large parts of Jakarta have thus fallen below sea level.
The city is a bathtub. Rivers run through it, but they can no longer discharge their own water into the sea because the sea level is too high. So the water has to be pumped out. Not the sea, but the city is now the drain, which entails enormous pollution.
In 2019, the Indonesian government decided to build a new capital on the island of Kalimantan. Life in Jakarta had become too unsafe because of the rising water. So, this decision is a BIG sign for people to move out of Jakarta. But, as you know ... people are ... like ostriches, sticking their heads in the sand. Don't want to deal with the emerging danger.

Indonesia's sinking megacity of Jakarta has a water problem

Jakarta is sinking because people there have few options but to use groundwater. On top of this, seawater is now polluting the groundwater, adding to people's misery.

p.dw.com

 

[centurion]

Indonesia's sinking megacity of Jakarta has a water problem

Jakarta is sinking because people there have few options but to use groundwater. On top of this, seawater is now polluting the groundwater, adding to people's misery.

p.dw.com

26% of Netherlands is bellow the sea level.

The pumps at Pasar Ikan (where the end of Kali Besar river/channel is) in North Jakarta are pumping water for few decades already. Most of Jakarta rivers are several meters below the sea level.

 

[Samoerai]

Severe weather in central Europe. Mediterranean Sea is very warm. Low pressure system is sucking all the water up and dumping this in Poland, the Czech Republic and Austria.

CNN news: A slow-moving low pressure system dubbed Storm Boris dumped a month’s worth of rain onto several of Europe’s historic capitals, including Vienna, Bratislava and Prague.

 

[Samoerai]

Severe weather in central Europe. Mediterranean Sea is very warm. Low pressure system is sucking all the water up and dumping this in Poland, the Czech Republic and Austria.

CNN news: A slow-moving low pressure system dubbed Storm Boris dumped a month’s worth of rain onto several of Europe’s historic capitals, including Vienna, Bratislava and Prague.

Today in the news ...

Scientists: Critical and unpredictable phase climate crisis is starting

A coalition of 15,000 scientists again warns against an irreversible climate disaster. In a report that came out today, about a month before the international climate summit in Azerbaijan, the world stands for a "critical and unpredictable new phase in the climate crisis".

Scientists see the extremes becoming increasingly extreme and follow each other faster and faster. That makes the situation "so criticism and unpredictable. It is very complicated to model how bad those extremes are, such as the floods in Central Europe recently. They were of a whole new type, we have never seen anything like that."

 

[Balifrog]

Today in the news ...

Scientists: Critical and unpredictable phase climate crisis is starting

A coalition of 15,000 scientists again warns against an irreversible climate disaster. In a report that came out today, about a month before the international climate summit in Azerbaijan, the world stands for a "critical and unpredictable new phase in the climate crisis".

Scientists see the extremes becoming increasingly extreme and follow each other faster and faster. That makes the situation "so criticism and unpredictable. It is very complicated to model how bad those extremes are, such as the floods in Central Europe recently. They were of a whole new type, we have never seen anything like that."

The end of the world...again...

 

[Shadrach]

The end of the world...again...

Sadly it's true, but the truth of the matter, is nothing has been done to prevent this. Scientists have been telling us to stop the deforestation, and find alternatives to burning fossils fuels. ( No deadly Nuclear Energy). But the Greedy powers that control the governments, continue to deforest the planet, (Kalimantan, Sumatra), and use petroleum fuel. All for money in their pockets now! It's disgusting that there is no planning ahead for our children's, children's, children! We will be remembered as the selfish generation.

 

[Pak Tani]

Scientists see the extremes becoming increasingly extreme and follow each other faster and faster. That makes the situation "so criticism and unpredictable. It is very complicated to model how bad those extremes are, such as the floods in Central Europe recently. They were of a whole new type, we have never seen anything like that."

I assume they mean the amount of rain that fell. From the perspective of loss of life and financial loss, Central Europe has had much worse floods in the past.

Modern engineering, new technologies and better forecasting methods have made it possible to limit the scale of this disaster and prevent loss of life and capital.

And it's like this worldwide. Take a look at the total amount of deaths worldwide due to natural disasters:

It's not all doom and gloom, even though it seems some want you to believe so.

 

[Samoerai]

In the meantime in Florida ...

Hurricane Milton landed in Siesta Key, in the US state of Florida. Wind speeds of up to 200 kilometers per hour were measured there. More than one and a half million households and companies are without electricity.

Florida and surrounding States are still recovering from Hurricane Helene, who raced the area only two weeks ago. At least 230 people lost their life's.

 

[harryopal1]

I assume they mean the amount of rain that fell. From the perspective of loss of life and financial loss, Central Europe has had much worse floods in the past.

Modern engineering, new technologies and better forecasting methods have made it possible to limit the scale of this disaster and prevent loss of life and capital.

And it's like this worldwide. Take a look at the total amount of deaths worldwide due to natural disasters:

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It's not all doom and gloom, even though it seems some want you to believe so.

Surprising data but it is not deaths alone that provide a measure of human suffering. With displacement by floods, loss of crops, structural damage and other negative impacts, I suspect that in terms of suffering created by increasingly violent storms then the figures would show many millions more people living in misery attributed to extreme weather.

 

[fastpitch17]

Surprising data but it is not deaths alone that provide a measure of human suffering. With displacement by floods, loss of crops, structural damage and other negative impacts. I suspect that in terms of suffering created by increasingly violent storms then the figures would show many millions more people living in misery attributed to extreme weather.

And one could easily say, this is but just, the beginning.

 

[Balifrog]

And one could easily say, this is but just, the beginning.

Nope, this is going on since millions of years !
Remember the ice age ?
Remember when the Sahara was green ?
Remember the cause of the extinction of the dynosaures ?

"The exact nature of this catastrophic event is still open to scientific debate. Evidence suggests an asteroid impact was the main culprit. Volcanic eruptions that caused large-scale climate change may also have been involved, together with more gradual changes to Earth's climate that happened over millions of years."

Note the last sentence.....
But in those days there weren't any mass medias dramatizing everything

 

[fastpitch17]

Nope, this is going on since millions of years !
Remember the ice age ?
Remember when the Sahara was green ?
Remember the cause of the extinction of the dynosaures ?

"The exact nature of this catastrophic event is still open to scientific debate. Evidence suggests an asteroid impact was the main culprit. Volcanic eruptions that caused large-scale climate change may also have been involved, together with more gradual changes to Earth's climate that happened over millions of years."

Note the last sentence.....
But in those days there weren't any mass medias dramatizing everything

Going back to the mid 70 and those climate classes I distinctly remember climate change being discussed. That was before all the hellabaloo that came after. At that time the courses basically explained that the Earth has gone through many cycles of around 25,000 years in and out of freezing to extra hot. Instruction pointed towards the coming hot cycle.

Yes, more that one ice age and more than one hot age. I doubt the meteor would drop onto Earth at particular intervals. None of the previous cycles were man made and that leads me to believe man has little if anything to do with this current cycle. It is also why I feel all that money spent to research it and proclaim it coming should have been spent on preparations to keep people safe from some of the effects of it. The Earth is not a friendly planet. Never has been.

When I say it is just the beginning I am referring to modern history of mankind and the written history of Earth. Yes, it has been coming for thousands of years and say what you want but it will keep coming and some day start in the other direction. Not that anyone of us will be around and even if we were, no one would realize it until we'll into the next cycle.

 

[Hawk256]

The end of the world...again...

How did it ever survive 4.5 billion years?

 

[harryopal1]

Going back to the mid 70 and those climate classes I distinctly remember climate change being discussed. That was before all the hellabaloo that came after. At that time the courses basically explained that the Earth has gone through many cycles of around 25,000 years in and out of freezing to extra hot. Instruction pointed towards the coming hot cycle.

Yes, more that one ice age and more than one hot age. I doubt the meteor would drop onto Earth at particular intervals. None of the previous cycles were man made and that leads me to believe man has little if anything to do with this current cycle. It is also why I feel all that money spent to research it and proclaim it coming should have been spent on preparations to keep people safe from some of the effects of it. The Earth is not a friendly planet. Never has been.

When I say it is just the beginning I am referring to modern history of mankind and the written history of Earth. Yes, it has been coming for thousands of years and say what you want but it will keep coming and some day start in the other direction. Not that anyone of us will be around and even if we were, no one would realize it until we'll into the next cycle.

While that is true, we still need to recognize the massive impact that humans have on ecology and the environment. Buffalo wandered the plains in America in the millions but were almost wiped out as was the pattern with whales and there are hundreds if not thousands of species have disappeared. Back in the fifties when coal burning was the most common form of heating homes in great Britain and Australia smog became a serious health hazard. We may well be in a natural cycle but it seems to me that massive pollution is having a significant impact and heading us in the wrong direction. Whatever changes may be naturally taking place in sea levels and global warming just the issue alone of ever increasing plastic waste in the rivers and seas, breaking down into micro plastics and into our food and water supplies would suggest we can't really just sit back and think, forget it. It's all just a natural cycle.

 

[fastpitch17]

While that is true, we still need to recognize the massive impact that humans have on ecology and the environment. Buffalo wandered the plains in America in the millions but were almost wiped out as was the pattern with whales and there are hundreds if not thousands of species have disappeared. Back in the fifties when coal burning was the most common form of heating homes in great Britain and Australia smog became a serious health hazard. We may well be in a natural cycle but it seems to me that massive pollution is having a significant impact and heading us in the wrong direction. Whatever changes may be naturally taking place in sea levels and global warming just the issue alone of ever increasing plastic waste in the rivers and seas, breaking down into micro plastics and into our food and water supplies would suggest we can't really just sit back and think, forget it. It's all just a natural cycle.

Sure, all true but as I said concerning the climate change, humans are but a small influence within the cycle. As for the extinction and reduced population of some species , humans are the primary cause. Plastic in the seas is also human's doing. They are not causes of climate change of which I was referring. We all know that if something can get screwed up, humans will be the first in line to do it.

 

[Balifrog]

Buffalo wandered the plains in America in the millions but were almost wiped out

Hmmmmm, who "wiped" them out ? Americans....
OK, in those days they were in fact Irish, Germans, Brits etc...
And while they were at it they also wiped out 70% of the REAL, NATIVE Americans....
So, no it wasn't the heat or some astroid !

Now our smart leaders in Europe decide to ban ICE cars in 10 years but it will still be OK to have wars ?
Plenty nice statistics about polution by ICE vehicles, planes etc..But did anybody ever made statictics about the Carbone Oxide released daily by the wars in Ukraine + Yemen + Gaza ?
Nope, on the contrary we feed it by sending them more weapons.

And, I am asked to use an electric bike to save the planet ?

?
What a bloody joke !