Cabinet Meeting on Immigration

[SamR]

Not sure exactly what will happen, but immigration became the subject of a cabinet meeting yesterday. Jokowi saying he’s being getting complaints about people wanting to get tourist visa, investor visa, and Kitas and the bureaucracy being “menyulitkan” and calling for changes.

Probably of some interest to the people on here.

 

[centurion]

The people on the top are misinformed about how things are in the field and in reality. Immigration has been accused but not their fault actually.

The main gridlocks at the moment in the immigration process are BKPM recommendations (required for every work permit, taking one month to get) and too long and complicated work permit process in the Ministry of Manpower (1.5- 2 months).

 

[snpark]

But I hear this a lot and I've always had my visas done and finished in only a couple of weeks. Even approval and so on
If you have the correct paperwork all in order theres never a problem

It's certain people trying to work in certain roles that they don't accept
Young foreign teachers. Consultancy. Digital something.

But a normal bricks and mortar job for an indonesian company seems pretty swift.

Just my experience

 

[harryopal1]

Hopefully it will shake things up a bit.

 

[centurion]

But I hear this a lot and I've always had my visas done and finished in only a couple of weeks. Even approval and so on
If you have the correct paperwork all in order theres never a problem

It's certain people trying to work in certain roles that they don't accept
Young foreign teachers. Consultancy. Digital something.

But a normal bricks and mortar job for an indonesian company seems pretty swift.

Just my experience

If you do not extend the work permit, the KITAS extension will be fast(investors, foreign spouses etc).

However, if you do KITAS to KITAP conversion, it will take months. If you extend your work permit, 1.5-2 months will be just for the work permit. If you do a student visa/KITAS, it will take 3-5 months.

 

[snpark]

Maybe for your first initial one it might take a few days more but weeks / months for a first Kitas? No wonder so many break the law waiting to start work if it takes 3 months to get approval.

 

[centurion]

Work permit (BKPM recommendation + work permit-RPTKA) is 1.5-2 months. Work visa is 7-10 days, work KITAS is 7-10 days.

 

[Helpful Herbert]

I think Manpower are the bad guys, immigration is pretty good on the whole.

 

[centurion]

I think Manpower are the bad guys, immigration is pretty good on the whole.

It is, but they are under the radar, and if somebody attacks them for inefficiency, they will claim that they just protect the Indonesian workers from evil foreigners and follow the Indonesian regulations (that they make btw).

 

[Vlerkprauw]

Short report on what was discussed:

President Jokowi Calls for Reforms in Immigration Services

President Joko “Jokowi” Widodo called for total reforms in immigration services to ease the process and improve services. The President said that the measures need to be taken in responding to many complaints related to immigration services from investors, tourists, and foreigners who want to...

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